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[jbbkt]

QUOTE (jokk @ Dec 20 2003, 07:54 AM)

"PC drive reads TOC on layer 1 when the "real" TOC of xbox disc is on layer 2... Layer 1 on xbox disc contains a DVD video compatible datas..."

how can i get my dvd burner (pioneer dvr-105) to read the 2nd layer, I have tried using nero, alcohol 120% and also sonic record now and all seem to just take the top layer and not the game.
When trying I have put the xbox disc in my burner driver set the read and write drives as the same and done a copy disc to disc. Is there a better method or program I should be using? I tried to ftp to my xbox using SMART FTP but when a game is in the xbox the connection is lost and the game automatically runs. Im kinda new to all this so dont know how to stop that happening.

[takezo-dono]

At the moment the only way to copy an Xbox game is with evox and FTP.
The only way that it would be posible to read XBOX fileformat or access files on an Xbox Game is to emulate xbox OS (playstation emulators require a playstation BIOS bin file.)on your PC.  This is no easy task.  A basic emulator would not be sufficiant to play game on your PC, however it would allow you to access the files the XBox game theoreticaly.  I know that people are attemting to create an xbox emulator but these are in very early stages and require the files be extracted from the disk which means that for now FTP is the only way.  MS knew people were coping playstation games on their PC, so they found a way to prevent that.  But I bet they never expected people would use the XBOX it's self to copy games.

[onlinebacon]

I was wondering whether this will work, I put a Original XBOX game into my DVD rom in my PC, i copy all of the stuff to the hard drive from that Cd, I then take the XBOX game out of the drive in my PC and put a blank DVD-r in, then all it is is copying from the hard drive to my DVD-R, will this work or am i on the wrong lines?

[cyph]

QUOTE (PrinceVegeta978 @ Mar 7 2004, 01:23 PM)

MOD EDIT: You can make a backup of a Xbox backup fine with your PC. Originals though won't work. Well guys here's the story. My dvd burner crapped out 2 weeks ago so i wasn't able to test this with a dvd. But here's what i did. I took a small game called Zapper (its about a cricket) that i had on my xbox, backed it up to a Memorex cd, and put it in my cd-rom drive. I then put a blank cd in my cd burner, opened Sonic RecordNow Deluxe and did a disc to disc copy. And well, it worked. I also tried this with 3 other small games i had and it worked fine. I also used Alcohol 120% with the same results. I havent tried this with a dvd so i dont know. Maybe someone can test it with a dvd burner and put some feedback here.

So, has anyone tryed what vegeta suggests? Just put a X-box dvd in the dvd drive and an empty one in the dvd-r drive and copy it? anyone succeded?

[Mixing_Piccolo]

I have another question. I'm ripping games from my xbox to my pc very often. Than make an ISO and then burn it blablabla easy as H*LL. But if I ripped Fable, made an ISO and burnt it, my xbox says: There might eb something wrond with the disc you are using (dirty or damaged). What can I do to fix it? Isn't there a program wich can copy your xbox game directly instead of ripping it? So your pc/dvd-drive doesn't have to read the files on your Xbox disc?

[chefelf]

QUOTE (cyph @ Sep 22 2004, 03:30 AM)

So, has anyone tryed what vegeta suggests? Just put a X-box dvd in the dvd drive and an empty one in the dvd-r drive and copy it? anyone succeded?

ONLY with a backed up game (in UDF format).    Original games WILL NOT WORK.

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I have another question. I'm ripping games from my xbox to my pc very often. Than make an ISO and then burn it blablabla easy as H*LL. But if I ripped Fable, made an ISO and burnt it, my xbox says: There might eb something wrond with the disc you are using (dirty or damaged). What can I do to fix it? Isn't there a program wich can copy your xbox game directly instead of ripping it? So your pc/dvd-drive doesn't have to read the files on your Xbox disc?

This was answered in the FIRST post.  It is not possible.  You need an Xbox (and ENTIRE Xbox, not just the DVD drive) to decrypt the game disc.  You can't simply use the DVD drive in your PC.  If you could... we'd all do it to make our lives easier.

[Crazy Priest]

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I have another question.....What can I do to fix it? Isn't there a program wich can copy your xbox game directly instead of ripping it? So your pc/dvd-drive doesn't have to read the files on your Xbox disc?

1. Try to change your blank media dvd on your burner and make the burning steps one by one carefully.(Are you burning with Nero?)
2. No program to copy and burn a Xbox game directly.FTPing must be done everytime you want to make a back-up.There's nothing you can do about it.
3. PC/DVD drives wont read Xbox files from a original ms disc.(unless you replace your xbox drive with a pc common drive).

Crazy Priest
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[jbbkt]

QUOTE (takezo-dono @ Aug 22 2004, 04:17 AM)

At the moment the only way to copy an Xbox game is with evox and FTP.

Where can i get evox from, when i get it do i install it via ftp to my xbox c:/ drive??? will it automatically run itself?

   

[mephistoph]

Is anyone working on an emulator that would be able to bridge the gap of XBox media on a PC?

I know what everyone says (and I'll probably be flamed for posting this) that it is IMPOSSIBLE to copy XBox discs, or read them, on a PC DVD drive.  Didn't they say that it would be impossible to hack ANY platform out there when the platform first hit the market?  Look at the difficulty there is in taking arcade games and porting them to a PC.  Not only do you have to program software to handle the data of incompatible systems, but you need to physically create a circuit board to connect the two together to even get the data.  Same as Nintendo cartridges and Sega cartridges.  We just take them for granted because they've been around a lot longer than the current consoles.

Yes, I understand there are bios limits, there are hardware limits.  But take this for example - the bios on one of my older computers could only recognize up to a 130 or so GB HD.  I installed a 200GB drive on it.  Interestingly enough the manufacturer of the new drive had a prog which when run allowed Win2K to recognize the HD to it's full capacity.

What about that bios limit?  It's still there.  I can boot into it and see that it doesn't recognize the hard drive as a 200GB drive.

So the question is, does anyone know of anyone working on a XBox Emu that does what needs to be done to affect PC hardware in the manner of an XBox?

As far as reading a disc - how's this logic - if it is possible to put a different manufacturer drive in the XBox and have it work - then is it a specific function of the drive itself?  No.  It's software control.  All DVD drives that are out there can read a second layer of a DVD regardless.  Otherwise how would you watch about 75% of the movies out there?  Most movies have the menu, extras, and such on one layer and then the actual movie on another.  Other times you can actually catch the layer change when watching a movie.  There will be a 1 to two second (or less depending on the player) pause about a third to halfway through the movie.  So, whether or not it reads the menu system on layer 1 or layer 2 is irrelevant.  It's up to the software to dictate which points to look at first and how to decode them.  The software, in the case of an XBox, is hard coded into a chip on the main board.

Sorry for the long commentary.  It's just frustrating to see so many people say "It's impossible to read an XBox disc on a PC" and site all these reasons when no one really knows why or how exactly.  What everyone should be saying is that no one smarter than they has come forward with a program to do what they say is impossible.

[wizard568]

You can backup your origianl games.
first you need to make network connection between your xbox and your pc.
then by using DVD 2 XBOX on your console copy the game in to your favoite destention.
Now you need this utility called Qwix. Run it and go to create ISO.
use ftp folder and browse through your xbox till you find the folder of your saved game.
then choose create ISO and save the game in to your pc.
Now use Nero, or Alcohol to burn your ISO to a DVD or CD.
Finally, slide your copy to your XBOX and enjoy.

[sayguh]

What if I turned my Laptop upside down, put the game in right side up, and then ran in counter-clockwise circles while I burned the game, would that work help?

I'm not gona bash people for trying to find a way to copy an xbox game with there PC but geez, read up on it first.  I have a feeling it's a little more complicated than a lot of you people think.  

You got the one side that's like, drrrrr, what if my cat licks the keyboard while i dance around wear'n a hat.  And then you got the sprinkling of people who know the discs inside and out "PC drive reads TOC on layer 1 when the "real" TOC of xbox disc is on layer 2...Layer 1 on xbox disc contains a DVD video compatible datas..."  

I know i don't know much 'bout the whole thing.  What I do know is that if there ever is a way to do it, the people who DO know everything will inform us all.  

Sorry fellas just wanted to rant.

[ThorSPL]

What about if one were to take an Xbox DVD drive and put in it their PC.....

Say a person has a broken xbox or buys one from somebody and attaches it to their PC.....

[Xeero]

QUOTE (ThorSPL @ Jun 23 2003, 01:21 PM)

What about if one were to take an Xbox DVD drive and put in it their PC..... Say a person has a broken xbox or buys one from somebody and attaches it to their PC.....

After you account for the fact that the Xbox DVD-ROM drive has a 10-wire power/command connecter (eject, tray-in, tray-out, ready) and the PC has a 4-wire power connector, you would be able to hook it up and the PC will be able to interface with the drive's firmware for the most part.  There is no software available for the PC that can communicate with the drive's firmware correctly so as to read an original game disc.  Typical PC software only knows how to request the data from the disc the standard way - from the center of the disc - while the game data is on the opposite edge of the disc surface.

[jackyl_816]

NO you can not rip a original xbox game with just your dvd drive in a pc,a standard dvd drive in a pc will not read all the info on a original xbox game,you must have evo x installed on your xbox in order to do this.                                    

[xviaox]

QUOTE (ThorSPL @ Jun 23 2003, 06:21 PM)

What about if one were to take an Xbox DVD drive and put in it their PC..... Say a person has a broken xbox or buys one from somebody and attaches it to their PC.....

Wouldn't that be ILLEGAL??  Copyright laws are everywhere and I don't think you can discuss this topic in this forum.