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Heet

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« Reply #30 on: May 02, 2007, 12:03:00 AM »

http://www.telegraph...2/16/dl1601.xml


Looks like not all of the UK has the same opinion as some in this thread.


[H8] Wal-Mart, go talk to a wall instead, you'll get further.  There are some on here that will tell you the sky is yellow just to disagree for the sake of disagreeing.  


I never understood the logic of it until one day it hit me (and actually it was an argument of racism with pug ster, gronne, and the other socialists).  

If you constantly argue a point even to the point of absurdity, the other guy will eventually give up.


One good point that I've read is that the UK gave up its rights so easily, but will never get it back.   The subjects (they aren't citizens after all) will more than likely never have that right again.




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« Reply #31 on: May 02, 2007, 02:57:00 AM »

I say bring back the swords. That way you could fight face to face or be a ninja.  biggrin.gif
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« Reply #32 on: May 02, 2007, 03:25:00 PM »

I signed that petition, nobody is taking my semi-auto AK away unless they pry it from the cold dead hands of my bullet-ridden body.  I'll keep fighting until I run out of ammo, then I'll go in with the bayonet!
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« Reply #33 on: May 02, 2007, 05:00:00 PM »

QUOTE(Heet @ May 2 2007, 07:39 AM) View Post

One good point that I've read is that the UK gave up its rights so easily, but will never get it back.   The subjects (they aren't citizens after all) will more than likely never have that right again.


I am from the U.K and am extremely thankful hardly anyone owns a gun (including criminals). You say we "gave up on our rights" but that was because we wanted to. In 1996 a man walked into a school in Dunblane Scotland and gunned down 15 little kids and a teacher. It was because of this, handguns were banned entirely in the U.K and firearms in general are considered a big no-no. Most people in the U.K have never even seen a gun, (this was true for me till i joined the army). Compared to the States our gun crime is extremely low and i can walk any street at night without fear of being shot. Even the police here don't carry guns.

I think it's strange that alot of Americans believe that banning guns will make matters worse, my country is living proof that that just isn't true. However, i can fully understand that getting rid of them for you is a scary prospect and will take away your ability to defend yourselves against the many criminals who'll still have them.

You must admit... it would be far better if nobody had a gun, That way nobody would need one.

Given enough time and commitment from the government and the good citizens of the U.S, 99% of your guns could be living room ornaments too  smile.gif
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« Reply #34 on: May 02, 2007, 06:05:00 PM »

QUOTE(Arvarden @ May 3 2007, 12:43 AM) View Post

I think the telegraphs summery sums up Britain’s gun culture quite well.  Our gun laws are strict but the judicial service is a complete joke regarding the sentencing of gun slinging dicks.  Some are publicly made of examples of but the majority serve little time due to New Labours negligence in prison funding.  

Instead of New labour tackling issues such as boarder control, gun/organized crime etc there focus is shifting to criminalizing law abiding citizens with on the spot fines such as putting your bins out early or dropping litter.  I see more traffic wardens in one day than I see Police officers on the beat in one week. It seems as if the government is only interested in making a return and then some rather than protect us.

When we get rid of Labour in our local and general elections we can begin to put great back into Britain.  Arming the population is not the solution, enforcing the law is the right and only option.


Well said. The bins out early thing is a real joke, I wrote a letter to my local newspaper about it a few months back.
But, i guess if that's the worst things we have to worry about, we haven't got it bad really. Just look at third world and developing countries where people die from fammine everyday. Then look at gun culture countries like the U.S where countless people are murdered everyday. Compared to other countries we in the U.K have it pretty f*****g great. We just need to vote out this money grabbing government.
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« Reply #35 on: May 02, 2007, 07:41:00 PM »

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Wow its a really good thing that MS-13 will never be here in america

I wish you were right however they are starting to show up in Minneapolis, and if there making inroads here they must already have a foothold in Chicago and LA.
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« Reply #36 on: May 03, 2007, 08:37:00 AM »

QUOTE(Heet @ May 1 2007, 07:39 PM) View Post

I never understood the logic of it until one day it hit me (and actually it was an argument of racism with pug ster, gronne, and the other socialists).  

If you constantly argue a point even to the point of absurdity, the other guy will eventually give up.

so true . . .
or they completely make it not worth the hassle to even utter a descenting view.  I have found that to be true in my personal life for quite a while when i argue against green politics in particular.  Especially when I was in college.  Its funny that when Hillary clinton gave her, "We are americans too" speech, I agreed with her.  I find it ironic, but not all that suprising, that a large part of her constituents and supporters wont extend the same courtesy to me.  


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Wow its a really good thing that MS-13 will never be here in america .


I wish you were right however they are starting to show up in Minneapolis, and if there making inroads here they must already have a foothold in Chicago and LA.

I said that sarcastically.  I live in a pretty small town and they are established here.  Everyone in my neighborhood knows where to get the illegal non-tracable weapons from.  The same place where most of my addict aquaintances get their meth from.  Why our local MS chapter of course.  What is scary is that if guns were banned, these are the people that would still have them.  I, on the otherhand, would be forced to give up all of mine primarily because the government already knows they exist.
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