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Trevante

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« Reply #30 on: November 26, 2005, 01:52:00 AM »

QUOTE(garshmalarsh @ Nov 25 2005, 12:40 PM) View Post

just curious....has anyone tried ftp'ing into it yet?  if so, can you copy the game disc to your pc and burn a dvd.  the 360 does read dvd r's


Lol, well there's no ftp server running on it so ftping into it wouldn't work.
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thebucketmouse

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« Reply #31 on: November 26, 2005, 12:20:00 PM »

I like it how the most unlikely people say 'we' like they will be hacking the thing

"so basicaly were fucked lol how long you think till we crack it?"
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« Reply #32 on: November 26, 2005, 04:16:00 PM »

Kids, oh ye of little faith. This thread reminds me of the thinking of the scene before the LBA48 patch came out. I remeber it being standard thinking that 137GB was the maximum HDD partiiton size the xbox would be able to use, therefore you were stuck with it. Then PaulB came around with all his awsomness, played around with a few variables and BOOM overnight the general consensious changed here. MS deployed expensive and hardware extensive security on the first Xbox, granted it was unlike the 360's security and an after thought, however it was still broken.

If there is one thing Bunnie should have taught the scene is if the security is crackable, then it should be crackable with cheap parts. You don't need million dollar equipment if you know what you are doing, and have the steps to reverse engineer the beast properly. It all comes down to the motivation, look at how far Bunnie went and the recognition he got from his work. Many are already suggesting that a physical dissection of the CPU may be needed, but regardless if the primary boot code is executed from within the CPU or not may not matter if the CPU has a thousand or so pins that could be communicated to.

To make a long story short, don't sell yourselves so damn short. Even if you disagree with the above, this scene did not become 200,000+ members strong by failure. If you can already accept a save game exploit boot loader as a means for loading unsigned code as second nature then imagine what the future will bring.
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TheMasterChef

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« Reply #33 on: November 26, 2005, 05:47:00 PM »

"xbox-scene", anyone who modifies their console and posts here is part of the xbox-scene.com modding community, don't try to make people feel they shouldn't consider themselves part of this...community because they themselves don't do the research on this stuff.

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If you can already accept a save game exploit boot loader as a means for loading unsigned code as second nature then imagine what the future will bring.


Well put. How many people thought the boot-disc chip-substitute for the Playstation would ever be http://web.archive.org/web/20021212092752/http://www.bootdiscworld.co.uk/playstation2.htm? As far as I know, no uncrackable console exists to this day. (I'm no history-of-Nintendo specialist or anything, but modern consoles have all been hackable. The Dreamcast would run some games that had just been cloned to CD-R.)
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lordvader129

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« Reply #34 on: November 26, 2005, 05:50:00 PM »

bear in mind MS also knows what bunnie did and how far he went with cheap parts, and MS had doubtlessly taken steps to prevent it from happening again so easily

a physical dissection of the CPU for example, much different than dissecting the MCPX as bunnie did, youd probably need a scanning electron microscope to be able to see the parts of the CPU

the CPU may have a thousand pins to listen on, but if all the juicy code is being stored, checked, verified, and executed internally then being on the outside looking is no good
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luther349

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« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2006, 02:46:00 PM »

all that stuff makes no diffrence if you crash the cpu and override all of it. the problem is is crashing the cpu at the right time. and anything can be hacked relly no matter what they do it just takes someone smart enough to figure it out. im pretty shure once the guide gets leaked like the orignal xbox did we wil knoe all abought the hardware and where some weaknesses can be found.
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