Topic: Microsoft: 360 CPU Change Won't Affect Performance (Read 101 times)

Xbox-Scene · « **on:** April 26, 2006, 02:50:00 PM »

Microsoft: 360 CPU Change Won't Affect Performance

italianiceag · « **Reply #1 on:** April 26, 2006, 03:42:00 PM »

hey, i could careless about the $$ saved by MS due to this, but if it helps make 360's cooler, I'm all for it.

I don't know why people thought it would make the machines faster though???

TerminatR · « **Reply #2 on:** April 26, 2006, 03:49:00 PM »

I want a rebate cheque from M$ for the extra power consumption on the existing 360 CPU

Hawk3r · « **Reply #3 on:** April 26, 2006, 03:44:00 PM »

M$ is smart tho, not many consoles would upgrade there cpu technology like, makes sense, newer technology, fixed bugs, same speed, cooler, makes quite a bit of sense, cheaper too

.. so price reductions could be a definet yes ?!

frieko · « **Reply #4 on:** April 26, 2006, 04:09:00 PM »

They said all along they would move to 65. Early adoption is not for the faint of heart or the faint of butt.

I wonder what the wattage difference will be. From an entropy perspective a computer is a heating element, so juice watts in -> heat watts out.

89c4l98 · « **Reply #5 on:** April 26, 2006, 05:27:00 PM »

I couldnt run faster or the games would not run correctly. just like with the original xbox and those few who tried to put in a 1ghz or faster cpu.

italianiceag · « **Reply #6 on:** April 26, 2006, 05:40:00 PM »

QUOTE(frieko @ Apr 26 2006, 11:16 PM)

Early adoption is not for the faint of heart or the faint of butt.

Amen to that.

This is (in very small resemblence) reminding me of the HD sets being sold now.

Essentially they are all useless since most "real" HD products in the semi-near future will not support them and will display things at 480 regardless if you can run 1080.

see: PS3 as an example. most HD sets will not be running at the 1080 that PS3 is capable of.

urmydizire · « **Reply #7 on:** April 26, 2006, 05:57:00 PM »

everyones forgetting the new cpu withthe 360 wont be sold till first Q of 2007 by that time everyone will have a 360 with the hotter cpu hahaha poor saps i mean cmon in 9 months u know how many people more will have a 360 they dont have a choice its a great deal waiting to be had

xecuterbox · « **Reply #8 on:** April 26, 2006, 06:24:00 PM »

I bet there adding extra security to TRY to avoid things like firmware hacking or whatever else is found lol

sick_mate_xbox · « **Reply #9 on:** April 27, 2006, 08:00:00 AM »

i dont think there will be a significant price drop with this move, just the usual market drops.

i wonder if this "version 2" xbox360 (if i may call it that) have extra security to prevent people dumping, patching and re-writing the DVD firmware? i mean, there is quite a while between now and the first quarter of 2007, plenty of time to fix a security flaw.

somtimes its great to have the first model of something

Stoned Ferret · « **Reply #10 on:** April 28, 2006, 10:06:00 AM »

QUOTE

I don't know why people thought it would make the machines faster though???

People who wish they know something about CPUs tend to think that any improvement in microprocessor design is a performance upgrade. Of course, REAL antisocial techheads know better. This is just going to cut down on the ENORMOUS power load of the 360.

Valhalla1 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 01, 2006, 09:31:00 AM »

curious as to why this is supposed to make the cpu run cooler ?

traditionally as you pack more transistors tighter and tighter on the wafer, all that power packed so close generates more heat, not less. back in the day of 386 cpu's etc, you didn't even need a heatsink on your cpu. by the time pentiums were around a heatsink was needed, then a small fan with p2's

nowadays you need behemouth heatsinks and monster fans to cool your chips so why should this be any different

This post has been edited by Valhalla1: May 1 2006, 04:32 PM

twistedsymphony · « **Reply #12 on:** May 01, 2006, 01:23:00 PM »

QUOTE(Valhalla1 @ May 1 2006, 11:31 AM)

curious as to why this is supposed to make the cpu run cooler ?

traditionally as you pack more transistors tighter and tighter on the wafer, all that power packed so close generates more heat, not less. back in the day of 386 cpu's etc, you didn't even need a heatsink on your cpu. by the time pentiums were around a heatsink was needed, then a small fan with p2's

nowadays you need behemouth heatsinks and monster fans to cool your chips so why should this be any different

I assume the heat reduction speculation comes from lower voltages being used.

xboxexpert · « **Reply #13 on:** May 01, 2006, 03:23:00 PM »

The 65nm boasts a significantly smaller core from the current 90nm. Thats where we get the lower temps and lower voltages. I see a change in motherboard layouts considering there will be less items needed to power this new chip.

-xboxexpert

This post has been edited by xboxexpert: May 1 2006, 10:25 PM

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