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Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: BenJeremy on July 22, 2003, 07:41:21 AM

As hacks will become a bit easier to implement, I think it's time we here people's suggestions for new BIOS hacks.

The idea I had is one that eliminates the clock check, or presets it if it's invalid.

I'd also like a BIOS that forces a boot to DVD no matter what (X2 BIOSes seem to have problem with this) - especially if there are problems with the HD

Thirdly, a BIOS shouldn't care if the EEPROM is hosed. The Debug BIOS boots fine with hosed EEPROMs, it's time we had a mod BIOS that did the same.

All three of these ideas are to minimize the many problems modders face using the current batch of 256k BIOSes. Now that code exists to implement patches and test more goodies, perhaps we'll see new BIOS hacking groups emerge on the Xbox Scene.




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: BenJeremy on July 22, 2003, 07:42:47 AM

Oh... also, compatiblity with the Phoenix Loader for future BIOS releases... at least as a secondary release or a simple PPF patch (or maybe a tool?)




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: muerte on July 22, 2003, 08:06:41 AM

FTP server built into the bios... have a bios setup screen, kinda like on PCs.  You could do all the XB-Tool stuff off of your xbox (i can't see this working with anything but the pheonix bios loader though).  I'll post again when I think of more.




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: chilin_dude on July 22, 2003, 08:17:23 AM

QUOTE (muerte @ Jul 22 2003, 06:06 PM)
FTP server built into the bios... have a bios setup screen, kinda like on PCs.  You could do all the XB-Tool stuff off of your xbox (i can't see this working with anything but the pheonix bios loader though).  I'll post again when I think of more.

That bios editor on xbox seems nice!




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: Heet on July 22, 2003, 10:23:07 AM

I wondered if ftp could be built into the bios.  That would be an amazing dev if its possible.  No more need to put this in dashboards.  Great ideas BJ!!




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: shanafan on July 22, 2003, 10:43:25 AM

QUOTE (Xeero @ Jul 22 2003, 03:26 PM)
Similar to how the X2 BIOS patches XBEs with media checks on the fly, it would be nice if it would patch XBEs that attempt to connect to Live in the same manner.  It would be nice if it would display an error notifying the user, then load the dashboard.....of even just load the dashboard.  That would be sufficient, and I can't imagine it would be that difficult.

Especially with Live Aware coming out. Who knows how that will work "behind the scenes". I wonder when the time will come when people will need a second Xbox just for Live. I know I am glad I already got that.




Edited by shanafan, 22 July 2003 - 06:50 PM.


Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: vtex on July 22, 2003, 11:11:32 PM

There was a discussion a while back on making a BIOS hack that wouldn't boot from DVD first, however this would cause problems if the harddisk boot failed.

It would be really good if the BIOS would boot to say dvdboot.xbe instead of default.xbe so that a boot disk could always be made...

Final point though, it might be a good idea that whovever creates this hack, be it XbTool or by Xecuter team, decides on what the boot name is. That way we all have the same boot name for our bootdisks.

Also, a more stable - reliable IGR that just returns to Evox.




Edited by vtex, 23 July 2003 - 12:03 PM.


Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: shanafan on July 23, 2003, 05:27:46 PM

QUOTE
Also, a more stable - reliable IGR that just returns to Evox.

Have you tried X2's?




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: feflicker on July 27, 2003, 09:12:48 PM

How about:

IN GAME SHUTDOWN.

We have IGR, but how about a controller combo that shuts the xbox power off? That would be awesome. (I don't want to do a controller mod, fixing a power switch, etc.)




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: CASTOR_TROY on July 27, 2003, 09:13:46 PM

connects to my fridge and a robot that work together to bring me beer




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: assmonkey on July 27, 2003, 09:22:42 PM

bootloader ,to chose dashboard
kinda like linux




Edited by assmonkey, 28 July 2003 - 05:23 AM.


Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: nickman on July 27, 2003, 11:59:23 PM

QUOTE (feflicker @ Jul 28 2003, 07:12 AM)
How about:

IN GAME SHUTDOWN.

We have IGR, but how about a controller combo that shuts the xbox power off? That would be awesome. (I don't want to do a controller mod, fixing a power switch, etc.)

Is it so hard to do a IGR and then select shutdown from the dashboard you are using ? wink.gif




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: regulater7 on July 28, 2003, 07:01:38 PM

QUOTE
When ever you load an xbe from the ms dash, it is automatically mounted as the D: this is to make it easier for the programmer, (those legal one's) any way


I think its msdash "security" but maybe this is bios bound? so i posted this in the bios forum, if someone cann tell me its not bios at all, then i will remobve.

the reason i dont want the MSDASH to mount every program it loads to D: drive, is because when i load EVOX from the ms dash, and i try to backup a game, instead of D: drive being the Disc, its the "EvoX" folder contents.....




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: vtex on July 28, 2003, 11:06:30 PM

QUOTE
I think its msdash "security" but maybe this is bios bound? so i posted this in the bios forum, if someone cann tell me its not bios at all, then i will remobve.


i dont know if its security but its a pain in the arse.

Even loading from nexgen, evox is mounted as D:




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: neo-dilly on July 29, 2003, 04:59:53 AM

QUOTE (vtex @ Jul 23 2003, 09:11 AM)
There was a discussion a while back on making a BIOS hack that wouldn't boot from DVD first, however this would cause problems if the harddisk boot failed.

It would be really good if the BIOS would boot to say dvdboot.xbe instead of default.xbe so that a boot disk could always be made...

Use XBtool that can edit what file the xbox looks for on the cd




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: regulater7 on July 29, 2003, 03:30:54 PM

 muthafucker hehe. come on u super nerds fix this lol.. jk




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: ZASADAR on August 01, 2003, 02:21:37 AM

 bios loads a list to select what bios would you like to load from the hard drive
keyboard and mouse
replace boot video
replace the cd rom no need to keep original hooked up
allow xbox to run like pc and think the video card is geforce fx
cpu and video card over clock      hey it could happen one day lol
maybe bios support to run just like psx or dream cast
hehe i can go on forever  




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: bombzhome on August 05, 2003, 05:15:44 AM

QUOTE (ZASADAR @ Aug 1 2003, 07:21 AM)
bios loads a list to select what bios would you like to load from the hard drive
keyboard and mouse
replace boot video
replace the cd rom no need to keep original hooked up
allow xbox to run like pc and think the video card is geforce fx
cpu and video card over clock      hey it could happen one day lol
maybe bios support to run just like psx or dream cast
hehe i can go on forever

Most of your ideas only make sense to YOU!  dry.gif  




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: Xeero on August 05, 2003, 05:28:48 AM

QUOTE (ZASADAR @ Aug 1 2003, 07:21 AM)
replace boot video

There's some work being done on this.

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replace the cd rom no need to keep original hooked up

X2 BIOS already allows you to remove the DVD-ROM drive and successfully boot.  Adding another HD to that IDE channel and using both is a huge BIOS hack.

QUOTE
allow xbox to run like pc and think the video card is geforce fx

What does this even mean??

QUOTE
maybe bios support to run just like psx or dream cast

Why in the world would you want to reduce the performance to that of a PSX or DC?




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: switzch on August 05, 2003, 06:35:48 AM

 I would love a bios that turns off the screen (or loads a simple screen saver) after about 5m of playing a game if no buttons are pressed.  XBMP and EVOx have this feature, but built into the bios would be ideal in my eyes.




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: (>Stormy<) on August 05, 2003, 10:05:33 AM

 A bios that allows dynamic switching of drives based on shortcut commands givin by individual applications/programs.  Basically a built in switch for extra harddrives and dvd drives would be really really sweet.




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: Xeero on August 05, 2003, 10:20:41 AM

QUOTE ((>Stormy<) @ Aug 5 2003, 03:05 PM)
A bios that allows dynamic switching of drives based on shortcut commands givin by individual applications/programs.  Basically a built in switch for extra harddrives and dvd drives would be really really sweet.

This would require additional hardware augmentation, as well.




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: (>Stormy<) on August 05, 2003, 12:33:07 PM

 Yes, it would.  It would require a custom IDE cable right?  But still, the ability to switch dynamically in the bios would be cool would it not?




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: Siccmade on August 05, 2003, 12:40:34 PM

 could save states support for xbox games be built into the bios?





Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: billybobz0r on August 06, 2003, 03:13:53 PM

 Donno about the possibility, but wouldn't it be nice to access your bios like on a pc, to disable/enable or change certain features? I know it can be done by creating a new one but it would be nice if you didn't need a to flash your bios anytime you want to change a feature.




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: lordc on August 07, 2003, 09:33:43 AM

 How about changing logo and letters??




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: Xeero on August 07, 2003, 09:36:52 AM

QUOTE (billybobz0r @ Aug 6 2003, 08:13 PM)
Donno about the possibility, but wouldn't it be nice to access your bios like on a pc, to disable/enable or change certain features? I know it can be done by creating a new one but it would be nice if you didn't need a to flash your bios anytime you want to change a feature.

I guess you don't understand the nature of a flash ROM.  You need to flash it to make alterations.




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: blaze_all_day on August 07, 2003, 09:44:22 AM

 Screen capture when play a game. Like evox do, but with a combinaison of buttons




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: ChadH on August 07, 2003, 05:14:13 PM

 The ability for the BIOS to read certain settings off an ini file on the hard drive, so that it would be possible to modify the actions of the BIOS without reflashing each time.




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: Mage on August 07, 2003, 07:27:53 PM

 
QUOTE (blaze_all_day @ Aug 7 2003, 11:44 AM)
Screen capture when play a game. Like evox do, but with a combinaison of buttons

You can already doing that using a debug bios.

Do a search if you're really interested in it. smile.gif




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: muerte on August 12, 2003, 06:11:14 PM

 seriously though, why haven't they added this into x2 bios (making it 512 instead of 256 if it's too big)?




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: feflicker on August 12, 2003, 06:13:45 PM

 
QUOTE
Is it so hard to do a IGR and then select shutdown from the dashboard you are using ?


Actually, YES! I use the MS$ Dash. I haven't ever seen a "Shutdown" option  wink.gif
I only use other dashes off of disc, when I need them. (My preference)




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: heinrich on August 14, 2003, 01:12:15 AM

 As for the shutdown option, if you are running the game off a disc, IGR will not bring you back to the dash, it will simply restart the game.

One feature that i would love to see, is being able to boot an xbe from a memory card.  Slap your dash on a card, no worries about xbox live checking the hard drive.  Would also be nice for those who have trouble getting evox installed due to crappy dvd drives.  They could get a friend with a modded xbox to load evox on a card for them.




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: Xeero on August 14, 2003, 01:23:28 AM

QUOTE (heinrich @ Aug 14 2003, 06:12 AM)
One feature that i would love to see, is being able to boot an xbe from a memory card.  Slap your dash on a card, no worries about xbox live checking the hard drive.  Would also be nice for those who have trouble getting evox installed due to crappy dvd drives.  They could get a friend with a modded xbox to load evox on a card for them.

Or those who have an X-key device would be one step closer to getting EvoX to boot if none of their CD-RWs and CD-Rs will boot in their Thomson. ::shrug::




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: Heet on August 15, 2003, 06:50:50 AM

 wish there was a way to do IGR with remote.  




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: damatrixz on August 15, 2003, 07:13:50 AM

 possibly make an original ms bios, so if we accidently select live it doesnt ban, but contains the features of a modified bios, dont no if possible, just suggesting as the forum suggests, btw, i have evox on my box booting from hdd, and my cousin has a box with the same xec2 lit chip, y3t his igr doesnt work, but mine does, he boots nexgen from cd, but i put evox on to test and no working, y does it work on mine and not on his, exact same chip, diff hdds, same bios y




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: heinrich on August 15, 2003, 03:14:35 PM

QUOTE (damatrixz @ Aug 15 2003, 05:13 PM)
possibly make an original ms bios, so if we accidently select live it doesnt ban, but contains the features of a modified bios, dont no if possible, just suggesting as the forum suggests, btw, i have evox on my box booting from hdd, and my cousin has a box with the same xec2 lit chip, y3t his igr doesnt work, but mine does, he boots nexgen from cd, but i put evox on to test and no working, y does it work on mine and not on his, exact same chip, diff hdds, same bios y

I dont think it would be possible, or in the interest of the bois makers to make a bios that lets you get on live.  As for your IGR questions, i would start a new thread and ask, and keep this one on topic.




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: heinrich on August 15, 2003, 03:19:17 PM

 Another feature, that I would think would be easy to implement is EJECT_FIX_DISABLE similiar to the IGR disable file that you can use with x2 bios.   This would be ideal for matrix users that use mode 3, they can still use the latest and greatest bios without the problem of not being able to use mode3.  Right now, its not required, as they can just use 4976.02, but would be something to look into for future versions.




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: feflicker on August 15, 2003, 03:59:49 PM

 How about IGR Disable.

Have it so that if you hold down a certain button while powering the unit on it will disable the IGR feature in the bios. (Much better than creating/deleting a file on e: all the time...)




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: Large Dopant white on August 15, 2003, 04:28:00 PM

 A built-in cheat system (i.e. the ability to stop a game, search for a cheat, start it up- repeat until value is found) would be awesome; it'd be like the GS Pro on the PSX. Implementation of another FS (such as NTFS or, even, an actual BIOS implementation of FATX-2) would be cool; no more worrying about filename lengths. I understand Avalaunch solves this problem already, but it's kind of just a hack; it's not a real FS, in its own right.




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: Xeero on August 22, 2003, 09:48:41 AM

 Since the BIOS settings can't be easily changed when the BIOS is on the mod chip, it would be nice if there could be an optional XML file that could be placed on a specific partition.  For example, the BIOS could have all its default features, but it could also check the XML to modify these features.  E.g.:
CODE
<x2_settings>
 <igr>off</igr>
 <ejectfix>on</ejectfix>
</x2_settings>





Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: heinrich on August 22, 2003, 10:39:41 AM

 Now that we have ftpd in the bios, it would be nice to see SITE commands to format the hard drive smile.gif




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: warbeast on August 22, 2003, 04:54:52 PM

 ok ive got one! how about a bios that will let you fix a 100% bad tsop? the matrix tsop bios only lets you fix your tsop if you still have a working 256k left.




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: XenoFire on August 22, 2003, 04:57:54 PM

 It's been mentioned before but I would kill for keyboard and mouse support. Not sure how possible it is though.





Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: feflicker on August 22, 2003, 07:47:16 PM

 
QUOTE
Have it so that if you hold down a certain button while powering the unit on it will disable the IGR feature


Well, we know it is possible to detect a button press during bootup (with the release of x24978).

QUOTE
Since the BIOS settings can't be easily changed when the BIOS is on the mod chip, it would be nice if there could be an optional XML file that could be placed on a specific partition


That is a good idea as well, but I think they can change the bios once it is on the chip, at least that is how it seems now that x24978 has been released with an xbe embedded in it.

That reminds me, why not embed shutdown.xbe so we can shutdown from the controller now without a hardware mod  tongue.gif  




Title: NULL
Post by: 'Patchinko' on August 22, 2003, 10:50:46 PM
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               A bios that would enable virtual memory on the HDD.
That way, anyone could have a 128MB (or 256, or 512... ^_^) Xbox.
But I'm not sure if that's possible at all !
               
               

               


                     Edited by Patchinko, 23 August 2003 - 06:53 AM.
                     
                  


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Title: NULL
Post by: 'Axelsson' on August 23, 2003, 02:12:10 AM
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                Things I want to see is:

1. SMB/CIFS-shares mapped to devices (F:, G: etc).

2. Sleep state with wake-on-keypress (Just like on PC)

3. Real embedded FTPserver, the way it is in X2-4978 just isn't impressive. Embedded (for real) would enable you to ftp in during gameplay or whatever.

4. Configuration via www and bios-setup screen on the actual xboxen. (Really the only thing I can think of where a xbe inside the kernel could be usable).


And I really want this in a 512K bios. I'm using the TSOP with two 512K banks. retail + retail + X2 + X2. 1M isn't interesting. Then I'll just stick with 4977. Perhaps a modular design?

Cheers
               
               

               
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Title: NULL
Post by: 'A.Z.BEST�' on August 23, 2003, 02:48:06 AM
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                - Booting selected dashboard when pressing some button - A - launches evoxdash.xbe, B - launches avalaunch.xbe etc.
- possibility to boot console with erased/ fucked EEPROM
- VGA mode and normal TV mode buit in
- FTP mode built in but with booting an *.xbe within (boot Ms Dash with additional sections with FTP from the bios within)


I got flamed for it in that '4978 bios' topic  dry.gif .
               
               

               
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Title: NULL
Post by: 'Trunks' on August 23, 2003, 03:45:45 AM
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                Axelsson touched on this a couple of posts earlier, but how about a global SMB connection being established at bootup.



               
               

               
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Title: NULL
Post by: 'Xeero' on August 23, 2003, 04:01:53 AM
'
               
QUOTE (Patchinko @ Aug 23 2003, 03:50 AM)
A bios that would enable virtual memory on the HDD.
That way, anyone could have a 128MB (or 256, or 512... happy.gif) Xbox.
But I'm not sure if that's possible at all !

The thing is, every application would have to be aware of this swap file, or it wouldn't be used.
               
               

               
            
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Title: NULL
Post by: 'Xeero' on August 23, 2003, 04:04:05 AM
'
               
QUOTE (feflicker @ Aug 23 2003, 12:47 AM)
QUOTE
Since the BIOS settings can't be easily changed when the BIOS is on the mod chip, it would be nice if there could be an optional XML file that could be placed on a specific partition


That is a good idea as well, but I think they can change the bios once it is on the chip, at least that is how it seems now that x24978 has been released with an xbe embedded in it.

Hmm...I dunno.  There are no changes made to the BIOS that's already on the chip, not even in 4978.
               
               

               
            
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Title: NULL
Post by: 'A.Z.BEST�' on August 23, 2003, 05:01:30 AM
'
               
QUOTE (Xeero @ Aug 23 2003, 02:04 PM)
QUOTE (feflicker @ Aug 23 2003, 12:47 AM)
QUOTE
Since the BIOS settings can't be easily changed when the BIOS is on the mod chip, it would be nice if there could be an optional XML file that could be placed on a specific partition


That is a good idea as well, but I think they can change the bios once it is on the chip, at least that is how it seems now that x24978 has been released with an xbe embedded in it.

Hmm...I dunno.  There are no changes made to the BIOS that's already on the chip, not even in 4978.

So maybe some program where you can modify options of the bios, and after applying changes it just reflashes the chip? But almost the same does Xbtool (without reflashing tongue.gif). Eh, it doesn't make to much sense. It would be just a toy.
               
               

               
            
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Title: NULL
Post by: 'Drexon' on August 23, 2003, 08:52:42 AM
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                I have a great idea. IN-GAME-ANYTHING! I know it's possible, we already know we can change the button config in evox.ini, so IGA (creds to mee! biggrin.gif) should be easy to configire.

I now have left&right trigger+A+X for IGR, wouldn't it be sweet to have (same)+B+Y to start XBMP or possibly even another dash? =)
               
               

               
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Title: NULL
Post by: 'Tover' on August 23, 2003, 09:31:48 AM
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                I like the ftp in bios, I kept the original dash, so this is great without having to reburn an evox cd.

Another thing I would like to see would be a dvd player in the BIOS, I know thats probably a little far out without a large bios, but it would be nice to pop the disc in, and hold B or X and it starts the dvd in progressive scan mode.


               
               

               
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Title: NULL
Post by: 'feflicker' on August 23, 2003, 09:59:48 AM
'
               
QUOTE
3. Real embedded FTPserver, the way it is in X2-4978 just isn't impressive. Embedded (for real) would enable you to ftp in during gameplay or whatever.


What about the games that configure networking when launched? Wouldn't the two apps using the NIC give a problem? Just my thought...

QUOTE
Hmm...I dunno. There are no changes made to the BIOS that's already on the chip, not even in 4978


Yeah, now thinking about it, that is probably true. The change doesn't necessarily have to be made on the flash rom does it? Can't any "on-the-fly" change just be patched to memory, since bios is loaded to memory on bootup?
               
               

               
            
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Title: NULL
Post by: 'feflicker' on August 23, 2003, 10:00:59 AM
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I have a great idea. IN-GAME-ANYTHING! I know it's possible, we already know we can change the button config in evox.ini


Yeah, but that IGR is a function of EvoX, not the BIOS. It is still a good idea though!  wink.gif  
               
               

               
            
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Title: NULL
Post by: 'BenJeremy' on August 23, 2003, 10:11:55 AM
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QUOTE (feflicker @ Aug 23 2003, 03:00 PM)
QUOTE
I have a great idea. IN-GAME-ANYTHING! I know it's possible, we already know we can change the button config in evox.ini


Yeah, but that IGR is a function of EvoX, not the BIOS. It is still a good idea though!  wink.gif

??

Hardly anybody uses the Evo-X IGR, due to compatibility issues, and the X2 BIOSes have IGR (they were first, you know).
               
               

               
            
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Title: NULL
Post by: 'feflicker' on August 23, 2003, 11:13:24 AM
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QUOTE
Hardly anybody uses the Evo-X IGR, due to compatibility issues, and the X2 BIOSes have IGR (they were first, you know).


We were thinking along the lines of Xeero. We should add a x2bios.xml file somewhere and be able to specify bios options, such as hot-keys to launch xbe files, similar to how IGR mapping works in the EvoX dash.
               
               

               
            
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Title: NULL
Post by: 'PlastiKK_' on August 23, 2003, 11:32:17 AM
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QUOTE (A.Z.BEST� @ Aug 23 2003, 06:48 AM)
- Booting selected dashboard when pressing some button - A - launches evoxdash.xbe, B - launches avalaunch.xbe etc.
- possibility to boot console with erased/ fucked EEPROM
- VGA mode and normal TV mode buit in
- FTP mode built in but with booting an *.xbe within (boot Ms Dash with additional sections with FTP from the bios within)

These are exactly what my wishes are too.

If possible I would like to see a dashboard xbe in the BIOS the same way that the current ftp xbe is embedded into the BIOS.  This would give it a real reason to make it 1MB.
               
               

               
            
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Title: NULL
Post by: 'chinmi' on August 23, 2003, 03:31:32 PM
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                how about this :

A PASSWORD !!!

so if we turn our xbox, a password question comes out, like :

press the 12 combination key or direction to start playing

so, we have to input combination like

A-B-X-X-Y-Y-Up Analog1-Down-Analog 2Up- DPad Left-Dpad Right-Start-Right Trigger... and so on...

this will be cool and makes our xbox more secure...

and, since mod-chip's will came with bigger space to store bios...
maybe a game could fit in the bios (if there's a mod-chip with a 5 Gb bios space, we can put a whole game in it)  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  
               
               

               


                     Edited by chinmi, 23 August 2003 - 11:33 PM.
                     
                  


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Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: SniperKilla on August 23, 2003, 03:35:40 PM

QUOTE (chinmi @ Aug 24 2003, 12:31 AM)
how about this :

A PASSWORD !!!

just use Xselector 0.6......

and same to the one that wants to be able to hit a button to select a dash




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: warbeast on August 24, 2003, 08:03:47 PM

 how about a bfm loader in the bios to take away the need to load phoenix as a app.  




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: krazykamikaze on August 24, 2003, 10:05:09 PM

 The thing I'd really like to see, and I think a lot can see the potential in this, is bios support for usb connected mass storage devices (Just map it to a drive letter like a memory card.)
Being able to hook up a usb harddrive or dvd drive using a simple xbox->usb cable,
you could build an amazing juke box without hacking inside the box !
Or keep a compressed archive of all your games on a big HD and just copy them over to the internal drive when you want to use them.
I know you can boot linux and use any "standard" usb device but I really don't like the idea of putting linux on my gamming console... and it'd be sooo much simpler to be able to do it in any dash using bios support. And if possible support to lunch apps straight from the usb HD (apps that wont mind the *slow* bandwidth of course...)

Any updates on the support for lunching xbe from memory cards yet ?
(like booting a dash from memory card instead of hd.)

And thank you to all devs who volonteer their time and knowhow to all of us ignorants and ungratefull bastards   wink.gif    beerchug.gif





Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: san9jay on August 25, 2003, 01:16:11 AM

 - Map buttons or button combinations  to any app/function
- Hibernate/resume function (Swap the running app out to the HD and be able to restore it)
- Mini dash with FTP, Format, Launching capability
- Mini network stack to allow a network drive to be mapped to a local drive letter so that games/apps could be run off the network.





Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: BenJeremy on August 25, 2003, 06:08:00 AM

 I was thinking about something that actually shouldn't be too hard to implement:

BFM capability, like the Debug BIOS:

Detect one or more BFM BIOSes in C:\BIOS and E:\BIOS and offer them up as choices (along with "boot X2 4979")

The biggest feature would be an X2 BIOS that allows you to boot from DVD, REGARDLESS of the state of the hard drive or dash files. It should also have an option to "fix" the clock if it's invalid. This is one of the biggest flaws in the current X2/X3 BIOSes out.

I have not personally had to deal with this problem, but it is a biggie, as people are ALWAYS having grief with the situation.




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: RiceCake on August 25, 2003, 06:22:00 AM

 The more capability to recover from a hosed system, the better...

Pain in the ass to start swapping parts out...




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: BenJeremy on August 25, 2003, 07:11:04 AM

QUOTE (RiceCake @ Aug 25 2003, 11:22 AM)
The more capability to recover from a hosed system, the better...

Pain in the ass to start swapping parts out...

Ah yes... EEPROM protection would also be equally nice, too. Another page that would be nice to steal from the Debug BIOSes.




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: Xeero on August 25, 2003, 07:17:27 AM

QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Aug 25 2003, 12:11 PM)
QUOTE (RiceCake @ Aug 25 2003, 11:22 AM)
The more capability to recover from a hosed system, the better...

Pain in the ass to start swapping parts out...

Ah yes... EEPROM protection would also be equally nice, too. Another page that would be nice to steal from the Debug BIOSes.

Can a debug BIOS boot with a trashed EEPROM?




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: BenJeremy on August 25, 2003, 08:04:59 AM

QUOTE (Xeero @ Aug 25 2003, 12:17 PM)
QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Aug 25 2003, 12:11 PM)
QUOTE (RiceCake @ Aug 25 2003, 11:22 AM)
The more capability to recover from a hosed system, the better...

Pain in the ass to start swapping parts out...

Ah yes... EEPROM protection would also be equally nice, too. Another page that would be nice to steal from the Debug BIOSes.

Can a debug BIOS boot with a trashed EEPROM?

Yes, it can. Seems like a simple thing.... downside is that if the HD password is trashed, you can't access the drive, but really, not a big deal, if you ask me (same problem on that count, no matter what, if the EEPROM is trashed - that's what EEPROM backups are for).

Looking back, I should have said "Trashed EEPROM protection"  blink.gif

Right now, I have to recommend people boot using Evo-X D.6 (if they are installing a new HD, or lost their dashfiles) or the Debug BIOs (trashed EEPROM), because X2 handles neither situation gracefully - while doing everything else very nicely indeed.




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: Xeero on August 25, 2003, 08:24:50 AM

QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Aug 25 2003, 01:04 PM)
QUOTE (Xeero @ Aug 25 2003, 12:17 PM)

Can a debug BIOS boot with a trashed EEPROM?

Yes, it can. Seems like a simple thing.... downside is that if the HD password is trashed, you can't access the drive, but really, not a big deal, if you ask me (same problem on that count, no matter what, if the EEPROM is trashed - that's what EEPROM backups are for).

Looking back, I should have said "Trashed EEPROM protection"  blink.gif

Right now, I have to recommend people boot using Evo-X D.6 (if they are installing a new HD, or lost their dashfiles) or the Debug BIOs (trashed EEPROM), because X2 handles neither situation gracefully - while doing everything else very nicely indeed.

Really?  I didn't know that.  I've been really lazy about getting a TA debug BIOS on my Chameleon (I had it on my X2 Pro), but it looks like I'm going to have to as a precaution.  I'd pick up an X2.2 Pro for the benefit of the fancy switches, but I'd rather wait until the next batch of chips (X3, X-B.I.T.) get a chance to flex their muscles before making that investment.

Also, what part of the missing-dashboard-files situation does the D.6 BIOS handle that an X2 BIOS can't?  To my recollection, if you are missing dashboard files but booting to a disc, it won't matter because it will check the disc's default.xbe before checking the HD for the required files; both BIOSes will do this.  If the disc is not bootable it will attempt to boot the dashboard with a dirty-disc error, and if files are missing you get an Error 16; again this is the same with both BIOS releases.  

Am I incorrect in my understanding of this?  Will D.6 boot a disc's default.xbe without Settings_Clock.xip while X2 won't?  I guess I'm confused.




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: LiGhTfasT on August 25, 2003, 08:50:10 AM

 1. Front panel LED orange if mod is on (so i know my mates have turned the mod off for live)
2. Disable network (even more security for live) while booting you could keep your finger on "Y" and this will enable the network port.

the ftp server is pointless imho, just not needed  




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: juan23 on August 25, 2003, 11:13:36 AM

 I would totally love to see a boot sequence, so u can choose from dvd or HDD.

reason why if u have a toast hdd, boot the xbox via dvd so u can ftp over to xbox and just maybe be able to save a few files on it.  this would be a huge help.




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: Terrorbyte on August 25, 2003, 11:27:42 AM

 It would be cool if a future hacked BIOS could turn my XBOX into a grill or microwave -- make grilled cheese sandwiches or pizza logs for a quick snack.  

No, but seriously, how about a future BIOS that didn't cause an application or game to freeze when the network cable is plugged in (especially when you have SMB/file servers sitting on your LAN or a router sending multicasts/broadcasts causing SOME XBOX apps, games, and emulators to freeze on load)?  I just want convenience.  




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: BenJeremy on August 25, 2003, 02:12:03 PM

QUOTE (Xeero @ Aug 25 2003, 01:24 PM)
QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Aug 25 2003, 01:04 PM)
QUOTE (Xeero @ Aug 25 2003, 12:17 PM)

Can a debug BIOS boot with a trashed EEPROM?

Yes, it can. Seems like a simple thing.... downside is that if the HD password is trashed, you can't access the drive, but really, not a big deal, if you ask me (same problem on that count, no matter what, if the EEPROM is trashed - that's what EEPROM backups are for).

Looking back, I should have said "Trashed EEPROM protection"  blink.gif

Right now, I have to recommend people boot using Evo-X D.6 (if they are installing a new HD, or lost their dashfiles) or the Debug BIOs (trashed EEPROM), because X2 handles neither situation gracefully - while doing everything else very nicely indeed.

Really?  I didn't know that.  I've been really lazy about getting a TA debug BIOS on my Chameleon (I had it on my X2 Pro), but it looks like I'm going to have to as a precaution.  I'd pick up an X2.2 Pro for the benefit of the fancy switches, but I'd rather wait until the next batch of chips (X3, X-B.I.T.) get a chance to flex their muscles before making that investment.


Yes, the Debug BIOS boots with a hosed EEPROM (I inadvertantly confirmed this  ohmy.gif  myself as well)

QUOTE

Also, what part of the missing-dashboard-files situation does the D.6 BIOS handle that an X2 BIOS can't?  To my recollection, if you are missing dashboard files but booting to a disc, it won't matter because it will check the disc's default.xbe before checking the HD for the required files; both BIOSes will do this.  If the disc is not bootable it will attempt to boot the dashboard with a dirty-disc error, and if files are missing you get an Error 16; again this is the same with both BIOS releases. 


That's what you'd think.... but I've seen countless reports of people unable to boot their Xboxes with X2 BIOSes when the dash files got hosed or when changing to a new hard drive. Why? I'm not entirely sure, but I think the X2 BIOS does a few things to the HD before it attempts to boot the DVD (we know it checks for an IGR file, for example). All I know is that my advice of booting D.6 works every time for these folks.

QUOTE

Am I incorrect in my understanding of this?  Will D.6 boot a disc's default.xbe without Settings_Clock.xip while X2 won't?  I guess I'm confused.


Like I said.... don't know why it is. I guess Team Xecuter may have an idea... but they haven't fixed it yet. I'm sure once they recognize it may not be a few isolated cases, they'll look into it and fix it once and for all.




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: Drexon on August 26, 2003, 11:34:04 AM

QUOTE (feflicker @ Aug 23 2003, 09:13 PM)
QUOTE
Hardly anybody uses the Evo-X IGR, due to compatibility issues, and the X2 BIOSes have IGR (they were first, you know).


We were thinking along the lines of Xeero. We should add a x2bios.xml file somewhere and be able to specify bios options, such as hot-keys to launch xbe files, similar to how IGR mapping works in the EvoX dash.

Soo, does this mean I influenced that? With my IGA thing? =)




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: petermac on April 09, 2005, 11:10:45 PM

that'd be nice, saying that i have a wireless controller...




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: XxXDarkwraitHXxX on April 14, 2005, 08:11:48 PM

DUAL HDD HACK!!!!! (one HD for boot and storage [or just boot], other for storage)
Have your own Text (the MS text and the xbox text).
Xbox Live Blocking.
Have something to replace the flubber.
Has it's own page if no modded dash is present.
Built in ftp server.




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: Paulusss on April 15, 2005, 05:49:44 AM

How about finding a way to power up your box with a button combo...?

and no more stupid remote doorbell mod  wink.gif




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: Crypty on April 22, 2005, 04:22:33 PM

I would very much like to see a bios that can take screenshots with some button combo(preferrably user defined)




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: EvilSmurf on April 24, 2005, 07:29:55 PM

A 1.6/b bios that lets eeproms be embedded....








Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: zX_Storm on April 26, 2005, 07:20:18 AM

QUOTE(JRSiebz @ Feb 1 2004, 09:42 PM)
real time xbox saves would be large

all the temp, cache files and ram

View Post




Actually, it wouldn't be that difficult I could imagine. Basically using the same kind of thing PC emulators use. Though, XBox does have more to deal with than SNES or N64, I'm sure it wouldn't be THAT big. Maybe a meg per save at the most.




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: TeonHarasymiv on May 15, 2005, 07:49:56 PM

Well, it's 64Mb worth of RAM dump to start with, and then the possibility of a Gb or so more from X, Y, and Z drives.....




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: XxXDarkwraitHXxX on May 18, 2005, 01:41:24 PM

Updated list:

Clear Caches on boot.
Custom Flubber
Custom Xbox Text
Custom MS Text
IGR
XBLive Blocking
Dual HDD Hack


What would be cool is if someone replaced the whole boot animation with the Xbox 360 boot animation. Now that would kick ass!




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: flipf0nt on June 08, 2005, 11:20:18 PM

on startup, specific button combinations boot a specific dash board
ex.
     no actions> boot evoxdash.xbe
     L+R+X+A> boot xboxdash.xbe
     Start+back> boot dash2.xbe

or may be its already been mentioned?




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: taconinjas on July 20, 2005, 05:40:32 AM

i like the multiple hard drive idea. also, i would like to see a bios that bypasses the flubber animation and the x screen completely, and replace it with a short video playing off of the hard drive, kind of like the .x files from the ind-bios.cfg. you could see any video you want when you power on your xbox!




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: BuffaloTrace on July 30, 2005, 06:42:55 AM

Definitely the ability to run two hard drives without a switch. That would absolutely rock.




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: NuclearWeapon003 on August 02, 2005, 09:39:43 PM

Use For all xbox versions xbox 1.0 - 1.6a&b

Disable Xbox Live So you don't log on xbl for mistake.




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: NuclearWeapon003 on August 02, 2005, 09:44:12 PM

All harddrive sizes higher then 137 or bigger
two xbox hdds without switch
Adjust fan speed
Overclock cpu speed




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: P1ckp0ck3t on August 13, 2005, 06:21:07 PM

Hell, we've already got button combos to open and close our drives, how about one that puts a disk back in the case and puts a new one in.  wink.gif




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: Axl_Mas on August 26, 2005, 10:42:32 AM

IGR to open the dvd drive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But the ind bios progect is die?




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: haza55 on October 29, 2005, 06:59:20 PM

the ability to change the startup animation but its probly not in the bios




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: h4xx3d on November 27, 2005, 12:51:52 AM

the ability to use n xbox360 controller in place of the orignal would be very nice indeed




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: dirttyturbo on February 07, 2006, 06:14:28 PM

ability to use kaid server (kai xlink), mabey patch the dvd drive secure media code on the fly.




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: spoone on February 15, 2006, 02:44:25 AM

yes,
we definitely want kaid built in a bios!
that should be possible. i just came across this post on the xlink forum: xlink kai forum post (http://texas.teamxlink.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9980&sid=e24a72a01dcaae0551fb1ebad6aef421).

if i knew how to do it, i wouldn't ask.
but if anyone was able to, i think this would be the absolute killerapp for xbox (in combination with xbmc).
hope someone's got time...

mod on,
spoone




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: jonels on March 27, 2006, 04:03:00 AM

A virtual DVD drive like the one in Nkpatcher so we can 100% HD compatabilty and without the need for patches/fixes. This would make running games off the HD a breeze and file transfer much quicker with just 1 big file to move.




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: Orochimaru666 on April 01, 2006, 11:25:38 PM

Here's an idea... an xbox without a hard drive just a dvd player and a dvd burner.  The bios would control all actions that you need.




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: MIb2347 on April 06, 2006, 01:45:21 AM

i think there should be a special bios just for those who have media center as their dash
like how the crowmwell one that comes on modchips has its own screen and doesnt have the flubber
you could have a xbmc one




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: torne on April 06, 2006, 08:03:25 AM

i think there should be a special bios just for those who have media center as their dash
like how the crowmwell one that comes on modchips has its own screen and doesnt have the flubber
you could have a xbmc one


You can already do this more or less: get the ind-bios or some other bios that lets you disable the flubber intro (and as many other boot-time checks and so on as possible), and set the executable it will boot to be XBMC. Cromwell boots very fast because it throws the MS kernel away completely and uses its own routines to access the hardware, which don't take as long to initialise (and don't use half the devices on the xbox anyway) - this isn't an option for booting XBMC which requires a full MS(-compatible) kernel to be running, since it's an xbe.




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: jcautela on April 11, 2006, 12:06:26 PM

A really useful bios would have auto-xbe patching for 128memory when an xbe is run.
This 128 upgrade is very useful but tedious with all the ftping and patching xbes for it.




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: BigGanja on April 17, 2006, 06:42:19 AM

embedded FTP client

Doubt it would ever happen within 1meg tsop size tho'





Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: ClintiePoo on June 08, 2006, 06:10:23 PM

embedded FTP client

Doubt it would ever happen within 1meg tsop size tho'


The X3 bios has an FTP server in it.  It is 1MB (although you can't flash it to a TSOP).

yes,
we definitely want kaid built in a bios!
that should be possible. i just came across this post on the xlink forum: xlink kai forum post (http://texas.teamxlink.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9980&sid=e24a72a01dcaae0551fb1ebad6aef421).

if i knew how to do it, i wouldn't ask.
but if anyone was able to, i think this would be the absolute killerapp for xbox (in combination with xbmc).
hope someone's got time...

mod on,
spoone


Somebody please do this!




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: JrracinFan8 on August 26, 2006, 03:06:26 PM

embedded FTP client

Doubt it would ever happen within 1meg tsop size tho'


Think he meant for streaming ISO's acrossed a network.




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: A Murder of Crows on September 23, 2006, 04:53:53 PM

A bios that can accelerate or decelerate the fan speed to mantein the selected cpu temp (as the fan control of xbmc but build in the bios!)


the x3 bios has a fan speed selector, but i don't think that there is anything for adjusting fan speed to maintain temp.




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Post by: 'Axl_Mas' on January 26, 2007, 01:47:58 PM
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Post by: 'codegamer' on January 30, 2007, 01:00:12 PM
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A bios that can accelerate or decelerate the fan speed to mantein the selected cpu temp (as the fan control of xbmc but build in the bios!)


the x3 bios has a fan speed selector, but i don't think that there is anything for adjusting fan speed to maintain temp.
               
               

               
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Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: gordo1111 on March 29, 2007, 04:46:29 PM

X3 bios are sooo advanced! tongue.gif  Just wish xecuter could make it tsop'able love.gif




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: -Gadget- on May 01, 2007, 03:05:38 PM

for 256k bios to actually still be in devolpment and worked on ! and any of these(in this thread) ideas to come to light !

for the X2 50xx to have an injection system like Ind-bios are, as ind-bios dont have a change to be updated as they lost there source !
and so we we would then have a peoper all in one bios (and not rely on silly ini files on HDD, and that stopid bios loading screens !!

Mick ....




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: Sweetleef on April 14, 2008, 12:17:45 AM

The ability to restart the network without a reboot.
1. reconfig network (static to static/dynamic)
2. want to connect xbox to other xbox
3. switch from network to crossover/pc
etc...

oh yeah
forgot to connect network cable before boot up - oops biggrin.gif




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: nick14 on May 01, 2008, 12:43:05 PM

wifi usb dongle to work would many like




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: Raindancer2204 on March 10, 2009, 03:26:50 PM

Hi,

i have a new idea for an Xbox Bios. Can somebody develop an bios wich can,
allocate disks over 1.0 TB? for example 1.5. It was only an idea.  jester.gif




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: supmax on February 02, 2011, 02:20:52 PM

Bios that would support a 3TB hard drive? Basically be able to format the F and G partitions with 128 bit clusters? Or maybe make a 3rd partition?




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: Heimdall on February 02, 2011, 02:50:00 PM

Nobody is developing Xbox 1 BIOSes. I doubt that anyone with access to any BIOS source code even reads these posts any more.




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: N1GHT R34P3R on July 02, 2011, 05:11:17 PM

What about customizable skins, personal startup sounds, and core customization of the xbox and how it runs your specified hardware, these days disk space is far from enough to move to running bios from hdd rather than a TSOP or other RAM-like chip. I figured that these BIOS' should already come with support for the hardware once the GUI is loaded since it is built around it with the wrapper of the kernel all on the same partition. So basically what I'm saying is:

A: softmod the x-box just to ftp without screwing things up.
B: (ALWAYS) BACKUP THE XBOX EEPROM.BIN and HDD.KEY!!!
C: FTP to XBOX and copy self extracting BIOS loading app.
D: load up program that incorporates custom bios, intro, and splash screen with wrapper for GUI all in a residentially core-based Kernel through self extracting loading app FTP'd to HDD.

      Who needs support for hardware in bios if you run everything like games and apps from a custom Dashboard anywayz? Modchips allow customizing, but not to the level I imagine when I think custom boot screens splash screens or flubber animations.

      One other thing, BIOS hacking should be imminent, we should instead look for a way to completely wipe the chip and load our own no matter the circumstance to a custom pre-made bios the way we want it! Take the "grammers" out of programmers and you're left with "pro".




Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: Heimdall on July 03, 2011, 04:29:06 AM

What a fabulously uneducated ramble. If it had been in the Newbie section it might have been excusable, but......

You can already run a BIOS from disk - Google PBL.
The BIOS does come with support for the hardware - what exactly do you think is missing?
If you want different flubber, write your own BIOS.
You can wipe the chip and load your own "custom pre-made BIOS" - that's what TSOP flashing and chip flashing does, and there are loads of BIOSes available, many of which can be customised.




Edited by Heimdall, 03 July 2011 - 12:30 PM.


Title: New Ideas for BIOS Hacks
Post by: cbagy on September 06, 2011, 09:36:22 AM

Don't know if this has already been covered but here goes.
I can unpack a evoxm8 bios to an img and view its contents no problem.
Why m8 you may ask, well after disabling a few useless bits (flubber etc) it boots much faster for me than the rest, much faster.
I know i can disable flubber etc with X2 bios but i still have to wait for the damn x2 live config BS whether i switch it on or off  blink.gif .
IND has bugs which have been covered on these pages so that rules it out.
Plus m8 doesnt require a boot file on the HDD where as the rest seem to need one for custom configs.
Unless someone can enlighten me to change my thinking !
What i would like to know is it possible to hex edit the m8 bios to recognise 128mb ?
Or does this even matter nowadays as we can patch xbe's with DeLimiter tools.

thanks in advance for any advise or abuse.