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Title: Divx On 360
Post by: Shutdown[Swe] on December 05, 2005, 02:50:00 PM

there will never be any divx/xvid support since all pirated movies are in that format and MS dont allow piracy

Title: Divx On 360
Post by: kevlar69 on December 05, 2005, 03:20:00 PM

I see your point, Divx is the main format of choice for downloaded movies, but thats because it has the best size/quality ratio. Thats like saying 360 won't play mp3's because of all the pirated music out there.

Title: Divx On 360
Post by: boxorox on December 05, 2005, 07:01:00 PM

QUOTE

' date='Dec 5 2005, 03:57 PM' post='3093347']
there will never be any divx/xvid support since all pirated movies are in that format and MS dont allow piracy

I suppose you said this about the xbox too?

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Post by: Zipp425 on December 05, 2005, 07:04:00 PM

its just a matter of time before the 360 is our beloved X360 Media Center.... haha and when that happens, it wont matter how MS feels about piracy, just the size of your external HDD...

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Post by: richie579 on December 05, 2005, 09:57:00 PM

ms should really hook us up, my psp lets me put vids on it...if I gotta convert to an ms codec, so be it...if the ps3 interface is anything like the psp, sony will allow it...I hope ms gets more flexible about it, I love my 360 and such a simple function shouldn't be left out...how bout lettin me play that t2 wmvhd disc on it ya know?

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Post by: MicroMods on December 06, 2005, 09:48:00 AM

Major Nelson already said in his blogcast that MS isn't stupid and they know exactly what XviD/DivX is used for. He then went on to say that they would almost certainly not support it.

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Post by: Jet5y on December 06, 2005, 02:54:00 PM

In that case, I wont be buying a 360 until it's been chipped and has a port of XBMC for it. It's my main use for my current XBox.

I just wonder whether the PS3 will be easier to chip and would be a better media centre in the long run with the blue ray drive.

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Post by: xbox-verity on December 06, 2005, 04:01:00 PM

Okay.. lets get back to the main point. So, there is no way of playing any divx or xvid files on Xbox-360? What's wrong with you ppl... this is MS - anything is hackable.

Title: Divx On 360
Post by: paul_phil on December 07, 2005, 06:33:00 AM

I was gutted to here this news too. I hope the PS3 will support them to give MS a kick into making the codecs downloadable, I don't know how easy it would be to re-write the codecs for the 360 platform though, I guess MS are the only people with the know how at this point in time too.

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Post by: sp3cialk on December 08, 2005, 11:49:00 AM

As of now you won't be able to add the ablility to play Divx on any Media Center Extender... this here comes from the SDK for the Windows XP Media Center Edition

CODE

The following media types are supported on the Media Center Extender (Xbox 360, Media Center Extender set-top boxes, and Media Center Extender for Xbox):

Xbox 360

Video

MS Windows Media Video (WMV) 7, 8, & 9
Maximum resolution of 1280x720 (720p) at 30 frames per second
Windows Media digital rights management (DRM) support up to level 2000
WMV Image 1 & 2
Maximum resolution of 800x600
MPEG-1
MPEG-1 layer I and II audio
MPEG-2
Maximum resolution of 1920x1080 (1080i)
MPEG-1 layer I and II or AC-3 audio
Audio

Windows Media Audio (WMA) 7, 8, and 9, WMA Professional
Windows Media DRM support up to Level 2000
WMA Lossless
Windows Media DRM-protected WMA Lossless is not supported
MP3
Any other format that has a DirectShow decoder installed on the host computer that outputs pulse code modulation (PCM)
Media Center Extender set-top box and Media Center Extender for Xbox

Video

WMV 9 Series
Maximum resolution of 720x480
Maximum bit rate of 4 Mbps. Variable bit rate (VBR) encoding is supported; however, high peaks in the video bit rate (higher than 4 Mbps) may cause video glitches
Main profile
Video width and height should equal the aspect ratio specified in the file
Windows Media DRM support up to level 2000
MPEG-1 and MPEG-2
Standard definition
MPEG-1 layer I and II audio
Maximum bit rate of 6.5 Mbps
Audio

WMA 7, 8, & 9
Windows Media DRM support up to level 2000
WMA Professional and WMA Lossless
Windows Media DRM-protected WMA Professional and WMA Lossless is not supported
MP3
Any other format that has a DirectShow decoder installed on the host computer that outputs PCM.
Note Media Center Extenders do not support the use of Windows Media server-side playlists for content streamed from the Internet.

If your application provides content that is not playable on a Media Center Extender, the application should inform the user that the content can be played back only on the host computer. The application can inform the user by displaying a message when the user starts a downloading or streaming operation from a Media Center Extender session, or by providing UI tags for each content file. To detect whether the user is in a Media Center Extender session or on the host computer, see Detecting a Media Center Extender Session.

Title: Divx On 360
Post by: sp3cialk on December 08, 2005, 03:14:00 PM

Just read a pretty cool article... might help out anyone wanting to play divx/xvid on the 360... check it out... seems you might be able to do it with the media center and a form of ITVCasting...

link to article for videora http://www.videora.c...60/wmvcast.html

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Post by: babanoosh on December 08, 2005, 10:39:00 PM

QUOTE(richie579 @ Dec 5 2005, 11:04 PM)

I feel ya. You'd think, AT LEAST that WMV part of the DVD would play. Pretty pathetic really. Mpeg 1 (lol), mpeg 2 (duh, what doesn't), DVR-MS (no thanks, I like my HD withou DRM), and HD WMV ( a joke format that is too resource intensive and is already being owned by h.264 in market penetration). Not too mention, who the hell even has any wmv content on their pcs? I'll be damned if I'm going to transcode anything that is already natively supported by XBMC or my Divx DVD player. They shouldn't even be allowed to say words like "converge" ; it's wrong.

QUOTE(sp3cialk @ Dec 8 2005, 04:21 PM)

?? ITVCasting and WMVs... I don't see anything in that link about DivX or Xvid.

"The good news is that the popular Windows Media Video (WMV) is playable directly though the Xbox Media Center Extender, without any extra steps or transcoding."

Popular? LOL. Wow, they've managed to stream a container that should be natively supported by the 360. Sheesh... you'd have thought MS would have picked something up from the what has been done with thee xbox. Of course, the irony is they have... a bunch of "crap" they'll push out for a couple of bucks a pop via subscription or pay per view, similiar to what ITunes is doing now with videos. I just don't get all the people that buy that stuff. What a waste of money...

EDIT: I forgot it plays .TS. That is really COOL, but sadly, the only cool (multimedia) thing.

Title: Divx On 360
Post by: sp3cialk on December 08, 2005, 11:42:00 PM

QUOTE(babanoosh @ Dec 9 2005, 12:46 AM)

?? ITVCasting and WMVs... I don't see anything in that link about DivX or Xvid.

"The good news is that the popular Windows Media Video (WMV) is playable directly though the Xbox Media Center Extender, without any extra steps or transcoding."

Popular? LOL. Wow, they've managed to stream a container that should be natively supported by the 360. Sheesh... you'd have thought MS would have picked something up from the what has been done with thee xbox. Of course, the irony is they have... a bunch of "crap" they'll push out for a couple of bucks a pop via subscription or pay per view, similiar to what ITunes is doing now with videos. I just don't get all the people that buy that stuff. What a waste of money...
EDIT: I forgot it plays .TS. That is really COOL, but sadly, the only cool (multimedia) thing.

Yea sorry about that... more or less all it is is a converter to convert videos compatible for the xbox360 media center extender much like the video converters for the PSP...

why should M$ make divx native??? they are doing the smart thing for them... 1 making you have to get media center just to play vids on it... 2 only supporting what they want (their formats)... it's a good marketing ploy for them... yes it sucks... but if it's that much of an inconvience not to be able to watch divx then hook up your modded xbox... most people complaining about not being able to play them have at least 1

Title: Divx On 360
Post by: babanoosh on December 09, 2005, 09:41:00 AM

After reading a little further on MCE 2005, I've found out that it does support divx, since anything that can play on WMP 10, should be playable via MCE 05. So I'd actually like to renege what I initially said. That is, why shouldn't divx be natively supported? Since Xbox360 is labeled a "media center extender" it should extend media center. It's not doing so (IMO) by only playing only wmv, mpeg1 and mpeg2 files video files. Saying that divx is used to pirate content as a basis for not supporting it isn't a valid argument. The same could be said about other formats, say mp3 for example. It doesn't change the fact that it's widely used/accepted and has a (legal) place in people's home theatres..

just my .02 cents.

Title: Divx On 360
Post by: lcapitan on December 10, 2005, 01:28:00 PM

QUOTE

1 making you have to get media center just to play vids on it

MS is NOT getting my money to use a 360 function that all OS should support. And that's why I have a little secret called BITtORRENT!

Title: Divx On 360
Post by: babanoosh on December 10, 2005, 04:40:00 PM

QUOTE(SilentWatcher @ Dec 10 2005, 02:44 PM)

Keep in mind that it is possible to play DivX on a Media Center Extender using a home media server program.
This simply transcodes your divx/other format on-the-fly to WMV or MPEG, letting you play them seamlessly.
For exmaple, see Nero MediaHome:
http://ww2.nero.com/..._MediaHome.html

Ideally, this should work with all uPnP devices like any Media Center Extender- but MS locked down the 360 so it is not viewed from a PC as a uPnP device. Get around that protection, and you have DivX.

On the fly? yikes! that has to a. degrade the quality of a media file that isn't perfect to begin with, and b. probably need a really beefy system to keep up. I think I'll just stick to XBMC for now. I guess I got spoiled. The 360 isn't marketed to be an "the" media playback device (or is it). I just find it funny when people think it's cool that the 360 stream pics, [wmv] movies, music and the like. Either they've never seen the potential of a modded xbox or haven't the slightest. The 360 playback is such a headache, and well, it just plain sucks. I'll be playing games

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Post by: mathias on December 10, 2005, 04:47:00 PM

whats scarry is if you download windows meadia center (bootleg) get your xbox 360 all setup then you go on live and they just double check your meadia center and disable it because the key has been used 5000 times....

Title: Divx On 360
Post by: violent_bong on December 11, 2005, 03:56:00 PM

Yeah, this is just another reason to promote modding xbox 360's...I would have left mine stock and enjoyed live....but without the full media support like XBMC had...what's the point?...it's just ridiculous, anyways, good luck getting some kind of divx/xvid support, hopefully one day someone will figure it out..

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Post by: Oddish on December 13, 2005, 01:41:00 AM

QUOTE(mathias @ Dec 11 2005, 12:54 AM)

What do you mean "disable it"? How would they disable my Media Center OS? I've been running Xbox 360 as a media extender with a pirated MCE for almost two weeks now without any problems.

Title: Divx On 360
Post by: ikecomp on December 13, 2005, 02:17:00 PM

QUOTE(babanoosh @ Dec 9 2005, 10:48 AM)

Just a thought. Since I don't have media center 2005 is it possible to add windows media player to the my programs list and then launch videos from there?

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Post by: cyberg4 on December 14, 2005, 12:25:00 PM

So far I really like the Music streaming, (pictures work fine as well), but the video streaming leaves a lot to be desired (an that would be an understatement) divx, xvid, etc. codecs need to become supported as well as streaming capabilities from an XP machine. Oh well that's what XBMC is for.

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Post by: babanoosh on December 14, 2005, 03:59:00 PM

QUOTE(cyberg4 @ Dec 14 2005, 01:32 PM)

Yeah, I can't rightfully give it credit for picture and music streaming. Not until they at least provide a physical file/folder view option.

Title: Divx On 360
Post by: gamefeen on December 14, 2005, 10:07:00 PM

I was just thinking about what that dude said in the higher post about how xvid/divx are the pirates choice for movies. What do you think is the pirates choice for music? Isnt music downloaded in mp3 format, well the majority of it. I highly doubt piracy is the main reason. Im pretty sure the big lot of Xbox owners downloads movies, I doubt M$ would wanna piss us off on purpose. I dont think they have anything to RIAA and the MPAA.

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Post by: kevlar69 on December 14, 2005, 11:59:00 PM

Agree totally, piracy can't be the reason, it's not logical to support mp3 then say we are not supporting divx because it is used for piracy. Not supporting divx is not going to stop me downloading divx content, all they are doing is pissing me off because I now have to convert everything, I'm still going to download it anyway!.

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Post by: Scarpad on December 15, 2005, 07:15:00 AM

QUOTE(kevlar69 @ Dec 15 2005, 07:59 AM)

The Biggest problem in converting Divx or other formats is that if you convert it to Mpeg2 the file is huge if you want to maintain the same quality. I've never liked the Windows Media 9 or WMV format so I don't think I'd even bother with that. At the Very least they could support Mpeg 4 .Mp4 files so I can use the same files I'm converting for my Ipod.

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Post by: jfoster on December 16, 2005, 11:12:00 AM

Not to mention, you lose surround sound

I also haven't had any luck playing my DVDS that I have ripped to my MCE05 hard drive. I mean, MCE can play them, but the 360 does not.

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Post by: Burning-Ranger on December 17, 2005, 10:42:00 AM

...it is possible to play divx files

all you need is Windows Media Encoder 9 Series

install the program go to your divx-movie folder and make a new text file called "name of the movie.asx"
into this text file you write "mms://IP-Adress from your PC:8080"

for more information visit http://www.evo-x.de/...did=131310&sid=

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Post by: fandabidozi on December 17, 2005, 02:37:00 PM

give uz a clue then... do i need to put the path to the file in the text file or just the IP of my PC??? and the name of the ASX will tell it what to load??

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Post by: fandabidozi on December 17, 2005, 05:39:00 PM

Actually forget it this is only how to set ur pc as a stream and then connect to the stream..

it will play divx but not at divx quality only 128k/s

poo basically...

pap suggestion and takes an hour to get working... per file

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Post by: babanoosh on December 17, 2005, 09:24:00 PM

QUOTE(fandabidozi @ Dec 17 2005, 06:46 PM)

hablo english?

Title: Divx On 360
Post by: scooby_dooby on December 17, 2005, 10:37:00 PM

winamp playlists are your friend.

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Post by: knasterhuis on December 18, 2005, 04:50:00 AM

this works fine
you can set the bitrate for video to dvd quality
so the picture is almost as good as the original
its a start till someone cracks the media extender so it can read divx normal way

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Post by: tuhnu on December 18, 2005, 12:25:00 PM

XBox360 media playing capability is a joke. You can't stream media from OS of your choice, not even from normal XP but only from expensive XP Media Center Edition. Frontend in XBox360 is clumsy and very slow to use and it doesn't even play most of my videos. I'm so dissapointed.

I'm sticking to my modded Xbox and XBMC

Title: Divx On 360
Post by: babanoosh on December 18, 2005, 04:32:00 PM

QUOTE(tuhnu @ Dec 18 2005, 01:25 PM)

Yes, it doesn't impress me either. Kind of self defeating really, to play an avi on the "media extender" dash, since the quality isn't going to be better then xbmc and you have to jump through hoops, withiin a poor UI, to get a degraded quality no less. It won't be replacing the 360 until it's cracked, and xbmc (or successor) is put onto the 360, fow show!

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Post by: sunnyd71 on December 19, 2005, 08:04:00 AM

QUOTE(babanoosh @ Dec 19 2005, 12:39 AM)

I actually like the media features. The media center features extra things thrown in for people who have it, it's not the reason most people would buy a 360. I built my MC computer by just installing it and adding a tuner and am very happy with it.

DIVX/XVID playback would be great but anyone who would expect MS to put it in is kidding themselves. Not many reputable companies add divx support to any of their players. I've never seen a sony DVD player with DIVX but I could be wrong. More codecs will probably be added as the 360 is a work in progress but I don't expect DIVX untill the system is open for hacking.

I'm still content with it but we'll see when sony starts announcing dropped hardware/delays/pricing whether or not if it's worth it to sell the 360 and buy a PS3.

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Post by: babanoosh on December 19, 2005, 08:31:00 AM

QUOTE(sunnyd71 @ Dec 19 2005, 09:11 AM)

Not many reputable companies add divx support to any of their players. I've never seen a sony DVD player with DIVX but I could be wrong.

I was with you until there. That's an oxymoron you know...

More to the point; lg, philips, rca (thomson), toshiba, and pioneer aren't reputable companies I take it?

This post has been edited by babanoosh: Dec 19 2005, 04:39 PM

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Post by: MrSpoons on December 19, 2005, 01:52:00 PM

QUOTE

this works fine
you can set the bitrate for video to dvd quality
so the picture is almost as good as the original
its a start till someone cracks the media extender so it can read divx normal way

any chance of a step by step guide on how to get this going?
my german isnt as good as it should be

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Post by: sunnyd71 on December 19, 2005, 03:18:00 PM

QUOTE(sealava @ Dec 19 2005, 11:08 PM)

I don't know a bout the USA market but in Asia and Europe almost EVERY new DVD player or multimedia system supports DIVX/XVID playback...
ohh and BTW MS Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 supports common video types including standard avi, .mpg, and .wmv files.
http://www.MS.com/wi...n/features.mspx
good evening...

I agree with you that I am wrong. The last time I looked at my local futureshop for a dvd player only the no name brands had divx support. But that must of been a combination of being in Canada, and being about 6 months ago. Sorry for the misinformation.
BUT media center does NOT play DIVX/XVID out of the box. Since it is a computer it allows you to install the codecs you choose.

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Post by: violent_bong on December 19, 2005, 03:46:00 PM

QUOTE(sunnyd71 @ Dec 19 2005, 11:25 PM)

I bought a yamaha dvd player to go with my home theatre about a year ago, and it supports divx playback...and I am also in Canada lol, but yeah a step by step tutorial on how to playback divx/xvid files would sure be nice, I don't speak a word of German

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Post by: simbot82 on December 19, 2005, 04:21:00 PM

Playing Divx on media center

Download Windows Media Encoder 9 from here and then Install.

Put your divx video in My Videos and then open up notepad, in the document write - mms://*INSERT PC IP ADDRESS*:8080 and then save your notepad file as *name of video*.asx

screen shot of what your notepad document should look like. (note ip address replaced with X's)

**for example if your video is called perfectdarktrailer.avi the notepad file would be saved as perfectdarktrailer.asx**

save the file to the directory of the video your wanting to watch.

Open up Windows Media Encoder

In the wizard dialogue popup box click Custom Session

In the sources tab change Source From to File and then browse and open up the video you want.

Use the other tabs to change the quality of the output. In this case we have set it as DVD quality video

When youre happy with your settings click apply and then start encoding.

Open up media center on your 360 and locate the .asx file and play it, you should now be able to watch it on your xbox 360 J

Original Discussion here

Someone confirm cause I cant i am aussie

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Post by: babanoosh on December 27, 2005, 08:18:00 AM

QUOTE(jizmo @ Dec 21 2005, 07:33 AM)

It's all a big joke, yes.

MS's claim for not supporting Divx just doesn't hold any water. DVDs are used atleast to same extend to copy movies, and the same goes for every kind of media format out there. Yes, believe it not - even WMV.

The idea of media serving from PC to Xbox sucks hairy giant balls anyway. Having to have two highly power-hungry machines running and encoding and decoding stuff just to watch one movie makes me so angry, I'd like to find the engineer who thought of it and kick him in the face. I mean, what a waste of resources.

I'm with these guys - till MPEG4 files can be played from a self-burned DVDs, CDs, USB HDDs or transferred to x360's HDD, I won't bother spending all that time, electricity and money. $400 for the x360, $1200 to Media Center PC and $100 for the MCE and you still can't do things you'd want to do with the whole set. Sounds like humbug to me.

Pass me that $100 second hand Xbox and XBMC any day.

I couldn't agree more

I'm already lining up my 2nd xbox purchase. I've been running a 1.0 since launch (way back when) but I'm getting concerned I'm playing on borrowed time now. I'd do the 2nd hand thing but I wouldn't want to take the chance on longevity. I just hold xbmc so dearly. MS will never come close because its far outside their "business model"... nothing touches it. I think I'll grab the 1.6b when they come down to $99.99 (unless my box craps out sooner) and maybe get a spider chip

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Post by: digitec on December 28, 2005, 11:36:00 AM

I am never letting my original xbox go, all I need to do is set it up so that it loads up to Media Center and not Evox. And maybe get a larger harddrive.

Title: Divx On 360
Post by: fandabidozi on December 28, 2005, 05:45:00 PM

I think its shit not having DivX and XviD support but lets be realistic not all DVD players have it yet in europe. Poeple still persist to buy Sony shite and i havnt seen a sony one yet that supports AVI...

Anywho.. the battle for HD rages on in Europe as unlinke in the US we take our time and think about it before just releasing it... beetamax anyone!!??.....

but the reason is MS has WMV.. divx and xvid are AVI (free tech) so there hoping and trying to get all pc media to WMV-HD which it obviously wont cos its shit and too big... so im keeping my old xbox for this only..

also i noticed for some reason maybe cos its a media center pc its connected to but the fookin 360 brings up the thumbnail images of the avi's (the first frame)...

is that cos its getting it off the pc or cos its got the codec for divx hidden and juts wont use it???

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Post by: comradpoplin on October 22, 2006, 03:54:00 AM

its only a matter of time in my opinion till 360 has the full support of divx and avi formats be it through a modchip or some hacked content we just have to hold on

Title: Divx On 360
Post by: olay on October 28, 2006, 06:27:00 AM

This might have been posted, I didn't feel like reading the whole thread...

For Divx/Xvid support on your 360, simply go to http://www.runtime360.com/

All you have to do is select your divx-file in media center on your 360 and press X, then choose more and "transcode" in about 5 seconds your divx will start.

I'm surprised so few people know about Transcode 360, it's really great

Title: Divx On 360
Post by: DagsJT on October 28, 2006, 06:32:00 AM

You need Windows Media Centre Edition to use it tho right? And most people don't have the Media version of XP on their PC

Title: Divx On 360
Post by: Cyberz on October 31, 2006, 11:26:00 AM

I dont wana use media center, damn!

Title: Divx On 360
Post by: FuNiOnZ on October 31, 2006, 03:45:00 PM

And now that you can run video from a USB external drive or a burned dvd/cd, how long till someone figures out a buffer exploit and we get XBMC360

Title: Divx On 360
Post by: notguiltystyle on November 01, 2006, 05:45:00 AM

I know this is a shot in the dark and it probably wont work but someone has decided to create a pitition for DIVX on your 360. If you have a spare moment please sign this if you feel it could make a difference?

http://www.petitiono...e.com/Divx4360/

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Post by: Zapin on November 03, 2006, 06:41:00 PM

If it was not obvious months before the 360 was released when they first told us there would not be divx/xvid support then it should be obvious by now that they have a revenue model for video that they would have a very difficult time marketing to movie and tv studios if the 360 was capable of playing divx/xvid natively. Only formats with a decent DRM system built in will ever by openly supported by MS since the suppliers of the content will want to have some control over who can play the content and for how long. 100 points and you get to watch some TV episode.. 400 points and you can rent a movie (video expires in a week or so). Video served and instantly paid for by a marketplace already on the 360.

I think the resourceful owner will find workarounds and hacks but for MS to openly support xvid/divx is not likely. It is naive to think that any pressure from us will turn MS around (after all the market is full of divx/xvid capable dvd players) so better to just wait for the inevitable hack/chip that will finally unlock the 360 to its full potential.

Personally I cheer the constraints that MS places on the 360..... the more incentive that the hacking community has to unlock the box the sooner it will happen.

Title: Divx On 360
Post by: MentalDragon on November 05, 2006, 04:46:00 AM

QUOTE(Cyberz @ Nov 1 2006, 08:37 AM)

Hell yes!
Anyway, I got Vista Medica Center to work with 360, is there a way to stream divx throu that?
Tryed vlc360 but it dosent wana start, maybe dont work with Vista?!?!

thx

I use Transcode360 with my media center to stream Divx and other formats to my xbox360... works great!

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