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Title: Zx360 48k Spectrum Emulator For Xbox 360
Post by: JonesyJ on February 10, 2007, 04:08:00 AM
Hi all, I have just released my first version, see:

http://www.codeplex.com/zx360

For screenshots, video and sourcecode

Enjoy!  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Title: Zx360 48k Spectrum Emulator For Xbox 360
Post by: andi_06 on February 10, 2007, 05:05:00 AM
very nice mate, thankyou for your work.  smile.gif
Title: Zx360 48k Spectrum Emulator For Xbox 360
Post by: Mr_Milenko on February 11, 2007, 09:11:00 PM
cool.. and who said we couldnt use homebrew on the 360.. damn heathens.. lol
the stuff is relativly simple right now, but as time progresses who knows.. keep up the good work
Title: Zx360 48k Spectrum Emulator For Xbox 360
Post by: freyyr890 on February 11, 2007, 09:58:00 PM
Now we just have to hope Microsoft realizes that they really ought to release XNA runtime as freeware... they can still charge for the compiler, but what's the point of allowing authors to write something that they can't distribute?  IT'S THEIR OWN CODE, after all...
Title: Zx360 48k Spectrum Emulator For Xbox 360
Post by: The Zep Man on February 12, 2007, 12:27:00 AM
QUOTE(freyyr890 @ Feb 12 2007, 06:05 AM) View Post

Now we just have to hope Microsoft realizes that they really ought to release XNA runtime as freeware...
Will not happen.

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they can still charge for the compiler,
No they can't. A certain version of Visual Studio has already been declared 'free'.

QUOTE
but what's the point of allowing authors to write something that they can't distribute?  IT'S THEIR OWN CODE, after all...
They can distribute their own code. Just look at the start post.
Title: Zx360 48k Spectrum Emulator For Xbox 360
Post by: xtreme_360fw on February 12, 2007, 01:55:00 AM
Wow, those games sure bring back some memories!  Great work, can't wait to see it get bigger and better!  This is only the beginning!

=Xtreme=
Title: Zx360 48k Spectrum Emulator For Xbox 360
Post by: dr3yec on February 12, 2007, 04:25:00 AM
This is just stupid. I dont mean the homebrew apps. What is stupid is the price M$ charges to do this. Just pure BS. I hope someone can figure out how to play with stuff for free on 360. Then I would be first to be interested. But as it stands M$ can keep it.
Title: Zx360 48k Spectrum Emulator For Xbox 360
Post by: oozingrectum on February 12, 2007, 06:05:00 AM
QUOTE(dr3yec @ Feb 12 2007, 12:32 PM) View Post

This is just stupid. I dont mean the homebrew apps. What is stupid is the price M$ charges to do this. Just pure BS. I hope someone can figure out how to play with stuff for free on 360. Then I would be first to be interested. But as it stands M$ can keep it.

It's not as if there are developer/publishers claiming they're "loosing millions of dollars to piracy", because it's all homebrewed.

Something like that.. Eh, posting half-asleep.

Ontopic: Nice job with the emulator. smile.gif
Title: Zx360 48k Spectrum Emulator For Xbox 360
Post by: mr-smith on February 12, 2007, 06:46:00 AM
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Now we just have to hope Microsoft realizes that they really ought to release XNA runtime as freeware


How true. Lets hope Microsoft see some sense and actually give these games away for free on the marketplace or allow home coders the chance to publish their own software.

Microsoft, I know your listening, Who exactly is gonna fork out $99 for the chance to play these games and then fart about with everything that comes with it?
Title: Zx360 48k Spectrum Emulator For Xbox 360
Post by: bucko on February 12, 2007, 07:38:00 AM
People with Jobs can afford it (I'm looking for one hehe). 99$ aint so bad when you got a job. Well if you think about it, the original developer has paid for it. Gee everyone just wants things for free nowadays.

Nice work, and to the people who said they couldn't run things at 100% on XNA must be smoking or something in the last thread laugh.gif

Now we need XBMC jester.gif
Title: Zx360 48k Spectrum Emulator For Xbox 360
Post by: OmegaSupreme on February 12, 2007, 07:48:00 AM
has everyone been brainwashed or what!? blink.gif
seriously i have a really good job and i am not paying $99 bucks a year
for homebrew. the 400 dollars for my 360 was a big enough dent
in my wallet, and i am just not paying for homebrew.
no way.
Title: Zx360 48k Spectrum Emulator For Xbox 360
Post by: 1nsan3 on February 12, 2007, 08:18:00 AM
These Dev's put a hell of alot of time and there OWN money out of there OWN wallets to make all this happen for us, an all you can do is piss and whine because you are not going to pay $99.00 a year for this. Yet you will Fork out $400.00 for a gaming platform, and then anywhere from $29.99 for $59.99 for the games? Personally your just a selfish son of a bit*h. If you cant pay $99.00 a year for this then you don't deserve it. Yes someday there may be a way for free, but still support these Dev's!! Don't complain about prices, you know that m$ charges high for everything even tho we know it never meets 'our' expectations. Please tho don't come to the scene and cry about it not being free. Makes you look more and more like a damn pirate.

Ive put my 2.4322 cents in.
Title: Zx360 48k Spectrum Emulator For Xbox 360
Post by: mr-smith on February 12, 2007, 08:53:00 AM
Who you kiddin? Forking out $400 for a gaming console and then yearly for live is more than enough! The only people stopping things like this from becoming mainstream is microsoft through its greed.

Kudos to people like Jonesy for making these types of emulators, I just wish MS would provide him a decent platform so everyone with a console could try out his good work for themselves!
Title: Zx360 48k Spectrum Emulator For Xbox 360
Post by: Fred_PJ on February 12, 2007, 10:01:00 AM
Sure, it's definitely not right, but if the code ran everywhere, unlicensed games (with uncontrolled content) would be (illegally) sold.
Title: Zx360 48k Spectrum Emulator For Xbox 360
Post by: 1nsan3 on February 12, 2007, 10:07:00 AM
If you would realize how much it actually cost's to create and maintain these things you would think a bit differently. Most people don't really give a rip. We all basically hate M$ yet we use there products. We all piss and moan about there prices, yet we still buy there products. Free is always nice. The $99.00 may be steep to some beginners and pro's, some people can afford it some cant. But if your in the dev business, your going to be spending money no matter how ya look at it. sitting at home on your puter creating an emulator probably wont cost ya much except time. But creating software that allows others to create costs alot of money and even more time.

Its great what these people are doing to make things free for us, but in the end there are more leechers than supporters. People that don't care as long as the devs keep em comming.

money is tight for half the world, life sucks, everything costs too much. nothings free, i want i want i want.
thats all ya hear now days anywhere ya are.

U don't have to buy it, u can wait for a dev to do something about it. Complaining isnt going to do anything to make anything better. except get ya flamed.


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Now we need XBMC


lol thats what the 360 is, they learned from the xbmc devs lol

This post has been edited by 1nsan3: Feb 12 2007, 06:10 PM
Title: Zx360 48k Spectrum Emulator For Xbox 360
Post by: chedabob on February 12, 2007, 10:20:00 AM
Um...I think nobody got the memo about XNA studio being for DEVELOPERS. Hence why it costs money. Visual Studio 2005 costs money, but developers dont whine about it. XNA studio is a way for indie DEVELOPERS to write games to show Microsoft what they can do with 360, without having to fork out thousands of dollars for real dev kits.

XNA studio is not for little whiney bitches to play nes games on. Its a development tool. Development tools cost money. End of.

Also, the $99 is to prevent piracy. If people could run homebrew exploits for free, everyone would do it. But if it costs money, what is the point of it?
Title: Zx360 48k Spectrum Emulator For Xbox 360
Post by: OmegaSupreme on February 12, 2007, 02:40:00 PM
QUOTE(1nsan3 @ Feb 12 2007, 04:25 PM) View Post

These Dev's put a hell of alot of time and there OWN money out of there OWN wallets to make all this happen for us, an all you can do is piss and whine because you are not going to pay $99.00 a year for this. Yet you will Fork out $400.00 for a gaming platform, and then anywhere from $29.99 for $59.99 for the games? Personally your just a selfish son of a bit*h. If you cant pay $99.00 a year for this then you don't deserve it. Yes someday there may be a way for free, but still support these Dev's!! Don't complain about prices, you know that m$ charges high for everything even tho we know it never meets 'our' expectations. Please tho don't come to the scene and cry about it not being free. Makes you look more and more like a damn pirate.

Ive put my 2.4322 cents in.


first off i have nothing but respect for the devs around here who do this stuff.
all i was saying was that its rediculous to pay money to make and play emulators.
the only one crying is you. i dont pay for live. i play on kai for free.
i dont have my drive chipped, i pay for my games. so dont call me a f*ckin pirate.
oh and by the way where did you come from mr 5 posts? did you get banned for being an ass
and then made another account. or is this one of many you have?
thats my "2.4322 cents"
Title: Zx360 48k Spectrum Emulator For Xbox 360
Post by: BennyBou on February 12, 2007, 04:24:00 PM
QUOTE(1nsan3 @ Feb 12 2007, 10:25 AM) View Post

These Dev's put a hell of alot of time and there OWN money out of there OWN wallets to make all this happen for us, an all you can do is piss and whine because you are not going to pay $99.00 a year for this. Yet you will Fork out $400.00 for a gaming platform, and then anywhere from $29.99 for $59.99 for the games? Personally your just a selfish son of a bit*h. If you cant pay $99.00 a year for this then you don't deserve it. Yes someday there may be a way for free, but still support these Dev's!! Don't complain about prices, you know that m$ charges high for everything even tho we know it never meets 'our' expectations. Please tho don't come to the scene and cry about it not being free. Makes you look more and more like a damn pirate.

Ive put my 2.4322 cents in.


First of all, your statement doesn't make sense. Yes homebrew dev's put lot of time and effort in creating emulators, games and apps, true. But the reason we are complaining is that the 99$ anual fee isn't imposed by those dev's... It's all done by Microsoft. What do dev's get from that 99$? The obligation to pay it too! So yes I am also complaining about the fact that no money goes to any of those dev's. Microsoft has created a little strategy called "I'm trying to make money from other's work". I would gladly pay 99$ a year if all of this money was going to those who deserve it, the homebrew coders but the way things are it's just giving a little more money to Microsoft.

Yes the XNA option is a great way to code apps for a different platform than the PC but hey... a Xbox1 and a modchip(or even a softmod), GP32/2X, etc. are all good too. Yes Microsoft has put a little effort in making XNA but considering the console war and the fact that PS3 owner can use their console to install Linux and create stuff on it I'd say Microsoft has only found a compromise that could satisfy some Xbox360 dev's that were thinking of changing their Xbox360 for a PS3. It's marketing and it's a way to satisfy a customer and make him stay with you instead of going to a competitor.

So when you write that we must support the dev's and that paying for the XNA subscription is a good way to do it I disagree with it. Also... keep the bad language out... that doesn't give you more credibility or superiority.

Also about that pirate suff, because you don't want to pay for something doesn't make you a pirate. I don't own a 40" plasma TV because I don't want to pay for it, on the other hand I would really like to have one free. Am I a pirate?
Title: Zx360 48k Spectrum Emulator For Xbox 360
Post by: d-range on February 13, 2007, 10:09:00 AM
Great, now that we have NES and ZX80 emulation without sound, I'm eagerly awaiting an XNA emulator for C64, Atari 2600 and MSX. wink.gif

Nice work though, but I'm still not holding my breath for an XNA version of XBMC or an emulator that can emulate any system less than 1000 years old.
Title: Zx360 48k Spectrum Emulator For Xbox 360
Post by: OmegaSupreme on February 13, 2007, 10:57:00 AM
exactly. if the devs saw any money from it then it would be cool.
Title: Zx360 48k Spectrum Emulator For Xbox 360
Post by: Millenia1x on February 13, 2007, 02:00:00 PM
but this is ms were talkin about so i wouldn't expect dev's to get even a pathetic refund for their works of coding art
Title: Zx360 48k Spectrum Emulator For Xbox 360
Post by: montymole on February 14, 2007, 03:15:00 AM

Nice work and looking forward to the next update. Are you also able to emulate the 128k spectrum where you can select 48k or 128k from the menu ?