Post by: Xbox-Scene on January 15, 2006, 01:57:00 PM
ccXgui v2 TV-capture Streaming Test Tool-- Posted by XanTium on January 15 17:05 EST
[XC]D-Ice released a new test/experimental tool that will stream the selected PC capture device (like TV-cards) on port 33000 (using VFW (Video For Windows)), so you can watch it on XboxMediaCenter(info).
ccXgui(info) v.2 - Tv-Capture test (1.0):
* Initial build
* Double click on black "image" to set settings
* Plz try different settings, and report back to me at: drdice[AT]gmail.com. Please write "ccXgui tv" in the subject
Official Site: http://ccxgui.xboxmediacenter.de/ccxgui2/
Download: here
Post by: modthebox.tk on January 15, 2006, 02:24:00 PM
AWESOMENESS!!!!!
Post by: edwinmcdunlap on January 15, 2006, 02:24:00 PM
All I get is fuzziness in the ActiveMovie Window...
some more documentation would help!!
This post has been edited by edwinmcdunlap: Jan 15 2006, 10:29 PM
Post by: kwoN on January 15, 2006, 03:12:00 PM
What would the capture card capture that the TV cant?
Dont get the big hype about this, its freaking pointless, you wanna watch TV on your TV? Why not plug the antenna cable to the TV instead of your tv-capture card.. doh.
Post by: ventline on January 15, 2006, 03:28:00 PM
is this the right path or is it not a xbms share?? I would realy like to try it out if anyone could help.
As for an initial build it has bugs like they all do but it should of had more documentation on how to set it up. I dont know if i did it right or if it just does not stream?? also everytime i go to close it i get an error saying ccXgui blah blah has a problem blah blah and has to close, please tell M$, send error report, dont send
Post by: modthebox.tk on January 15, 2006, 04:56:00 PM
QUOTE(kwoN @ Jan 16 2006, 01:27 AM) 
Whats the point in streaming TV feeds to a TV??!
What would the capture card capture that the TV cant?
Dont get the big hype about this, its freaking pointless, you wanna watch TV on your TV? Why not plug the antenna cable to the TV instead of your tv-capture card.. doh.
mostly because capture card to Xbox gives you better quality (I would think).
Also, it is nice to have a TiVo box without actually getting one.
Post by: CrayZEE on January 15, 2006, 05:08:00 PM
Post by: wolrahnaes on January 15, 2006, 05:31:00 PM
QUOTE(kwoN @ Jan 15 2006, 06:27 PM)
Whats the point in streaming TV feeds to a TV??!
If, like me, your "TV" is just a display device with no tuner. I have a projector as my primary TV. I bought a TiVo just for the tuner. It would be very nice to be able to load this on one of my servers and get rid of the TiVo entirely, since I download most TV shows for later watching anyways. They're higher quality this way and lack commercials.
Post by: Casper1786 on January 15, 2006, 05:27:00 PM
pretty sweet cause i was just in the market for a Capture Card anyway, i'll sit back and see how this here bit works then see what kinda card I want
Post by: avengingangel on January 15, 2006, 06:47:00 PM
Only problem is that I have a Nexus-s DVB card that I was hoping to stream with but that device didn't show up in the list for whatever reason.
The device that did was my logitech fusion web cam and that worked well
Excellent start to a potentially awesome new feature continually breathing life into the xbox !
Post by: Sarek on January 15, 2006, 07:38:00 PM
QUOTE(wolrahnaes @ Jan 16 2006, 01:31 AM)
I bought a TiVo just for the tuner.
No need to do that. ViewSonic created this to solve that problem :
NextVision
There are several versions with varying prices (and resolutions). Turns any "monitor" into a TV with tuner and various TV inputs.
Post by: spIdeZ on January 15, 2006, 09:22:00 PM
Post by: Sord_Fish on January 15, 2006, 08:35:00 PM
16-01-2006 04:22:06 ERROR GetDirectory(xbms://192.168.0.12:33000/) failed
comes up on the pc fine.
tryed it with a wintv usb and a sipix webcam
Post by: NarutoKun on January 15, 2006, 10:41:00 PM
Post by: philbee on January 15, 2006, 10:55:00 PM
Post by: [D]eIcE on January 16, 2006, 12:35:00 AM
First time, in a long time, I have seen so many posts about my ccXgui (though it's not implemented yet).
First of all. I don't even think it's supported by XBMC (directly) because this part is NOT based on cXstream, but "pure" TCP data.
I'm talking to a few "phyton geeks" that (hopefully) are going to write a small script for this
I'm releasing a small client tool soon, so you can (locally on the pc) test this nice tool....heh
About the "Interface not supported": If I remember correct (not near my development machine atm.) it has something to do with the codec. Try change to another codec.... VFW codec if I remember corrrect is nice.....
About the XBOX->PC commands: heh...look at cXgui v.2 wip news..... allready there
(or at least on it's way)
Post by: DaLeroy on January 16, 2006, 02:43:00 AM
I have Fusion HDTV Card (PAL - Australia) and it only supports the Video Input, not the Tuner itself. If you could make this BDA compliant, it would rock!!!
Cheers
Leon
Post by: Wigmund on January 16, 2006, 02:55:00 AM
Post by: [D]eIcE on January 16, 2006, 03:23:00 AM
The best way to test it atm. is with a webcam, as it don't require (mostly) any setup of channel etc.
I will try to talk to the XBMC team later, when i'm home again (at my development machine...heh) so we manye can figure this out.....
Or mabye I will "convert" the stream to a mms protocol, for easier streaming (though the current will stream in a higher quality)
Post by: Xavierking on January 16, 2006, 06:21:00 AM
Post by: gg22mm on January 16, 2006, 09:00:00 AM
Now, this application is also streaming these images using tcp over port 33000, but there is no client to pick them up yet?
I'll try all the players that i have installed in my notebook as soon as I get home, but I would just like to know if what I understood is accurate.
Post by: [D]eIcE on January 16, 2006, 10:01:00 AM
QUOTE(gg22mm @ Jan 16 2006, 05:00 PM) 
So let me see if I got this straight... I got it to work on my pc. Althought I had to guess through a couple of the options of the settings window because it would not display either the OK or Cancel buttons (i guess they are there but since I am using big fonts they might be screwing up the gui), i got the initially black window to display the images of my Logitech USB Web cam.
Now, this application is also streaming these images using tcp over port 33000, but there is no client to pick them up yet?
I'll try all the players that i have installed in my notebook as soon as I get home, but I would just like to know if what I understood is accurate.
Yes. You are right, as there are no clinets beside xine, and my test client that can accept raw tcp data (tcp://IP_HERE:33000)
I will release the test client soon
Post by: MeAndI on January 16, 2006, 03:07:00 PM
QUOTE
eIcE' date='Jan 16 2006, 06:08 PM' post='3190165']
there are no clinets beside xine, and my test client that can accept raw tcp data (tcp://IP_HERE:33000)
there are no clinets beside xine, and my test client that can accept raw tcp data (tcp://IP_HERE:33000)
Are you refering to the ccXgui as an client? I thought is was a server?
And what about about it's streaming abilities, how should I connect to it from my XBMC? I have tried the TCP://MYIP:33000 and checked so my PC is listening to the 33000 port and it is showing a live tv picture on my PC right now.
..or am I totaly wrong, was this NOT meant to be working right-out-of-the box in XBMC? ...I don't use any xbms:// ..just standard smb:// stuff for me
Post by: Hawat on January 16, 2006, 03:28:00 PM
yes. As I understand it this is not meant to work with XBMC as a client (at least not at this point). So I guess the failures on the XBMC side to pick up the stream are expected and need to be fixed on the XBMC side ?
Few more comments:
1) Why would you do this ? - Well consider that you only have one location in your house where you get cable tv / satellite in. This is where you have your cable box. Now, you hook up that box to a PC with capture card. Now you can watch TV _anywhere_ in house where you have a cat5 connection and a Xbox or a PC. Or you can do this even over a 802.11a connection without any wires ! This is the _huge_ and _only_ advantage MCE has over XBMC right now (thats why I am running both on my XBOX hehe). So haveing ccXgui2 stream the capture card stream and then pick it up with XBMC would be absolutely AWESOME !
2) Both vlc and mplayer (on linux) should be also able to pick up raw udp and tcp streams. VLC is very nice for testing, stable and a nice ui for configuration (the website i think is videolan.org).
3) If you have a tuner card you need to implement channel changeing on the card itself. However there is a very good, very workable alternative for this: If you have an external cable / satellite receiver, use the composite video in on your tuner card (instead of hooking up the cable directly to the tuner) and change the channels on the cable / satellite box. This way, you can get a pair of pretty cheap Infrared repeater from Radio Shack or so, and take the cable box remote control with you to whereever you are watching the tv stream and change channels from there. This, however, only works with cable & sat boxes, not with 'off-the-air' tv.
4) THANKS for developing this. Keep up the good work. Can't wait to have xbmc work as a client for this.
Post by: [D]eIcE on January 17, 2006, 07:21:00 AM
Hawat: 1: Yes. That was my first idea
I got the idea because where I am living now (shitty apartment...heh) we are not allowed to put up new cables for tv. That means that we have to have the tv close by the plug....but that is located close to the kitchen...and not the living room. So I thought about putting a mini itx comp there, with tv tuner card, big hdd, etc, and then send it thorugh either cable LAN or wireless....awsome...heh...so far.... And as the current development version of ccXgui2 has got command server implemented, we can then (if also supported in xbmc) send commands (user defined) from the xbox to the ccXgui server....so now we can start changing channel, etc on the tv-tuner card.....directly from xbmc....also awsome 2: I will try to look at those 2 players....tnx
3: As I wrote in 1. ccXgui2 will get a command server
4: You welcome.... I'm just making this nice software, so we can expand the xbmc experience..... I thing there's a long time before we see xbmc on Xbox360....so lets enjoy this model
Post by: eloo on January 19, 2006, 05:11:00 AM
/Ole
Post by: zlimmie on January 19, 2006, 09:08:00 AM
Keep up the good work!
Post by: ken52787 on January 19, 2006, 10:18:00 AM
If XBMC started supporting this, then this program would own.
Post by: The_one_111 on January 27, 2006, 01:02:00 PM
Keep up the good work
Post by: nnkie on January 27, 2006, 05:56:00 PM
I created a .strm file like this
http://MYIPHERE:1234
and it loads everytime
I have been trying settings for a while and that is the only way it seems to work.
I am also using a Radeon All-In-wonder
Post by: FredPenner on February 02, 2006, 04:14:00 AM
QUOTE(Hawat @ Jan 16 2006, 05:28 PM)
MeandI,
1) Why would you do this ? - Well consider that you only have one location in your house where you get cable tv / satellite in. This is where you have your cable box. Now, you hook up that box to a PC with capture card. Now you can watch TV _anywhere_ in house where you have a cat5 connection and a Xbox or a PC. Or you can do this even over a 802.11a connection without any wires ! This is the _huge_ and _only_ advantage MCE has over XBMC right now (thats why I am running both on my XBOX hehe). So haveing ccXgui2 stream the capture card stream and then pick it up with XBMC would be absolutely AWESOME !
2) Both vlc and mplayer (on linux) should be also able to pick up raw udp and tcp streams. VLC is very nice for testing, stable and a nice ui for configuration (the website i think is videolan.org).
Hawat,
I have a question regarding the MCE with XBMC.
I have been looking for a EPG/PVR solution for my XBMC and aside from the MythTV front end (which would require a hardware change on my HTPC-ATI-AIW radeon isn't supported in linux) or the MCE extender from M$. Which would require me installing MCE 2005 on my HTPC, and is an acceptable solution for me.
I have not been able to find anyone with a review of using BOTH the MCE and XBMC. One 'complaint' about the extender, was being forced to use the disk (which would require a disk change if playing a game) however installing it to the HDD in XBMC would take that away. I am wondering though if the 'anti-chipping' policy of M$ would require some sort of patch to allow it to work on a modded xbox.
Ideally an xmltv updated EPG with PVR functions (recording stream to xbox HDD OR on pc server) would be perfect and worth the purchase of MCE 2005 and an extender kit. Of course I would settle for the ability to watch a TV stream and have control of channel changing and program info functions.
I guess my question(s) are, does the MCE run on XBMC or does it require rebooting/disabling chip and reloading the original bios?
Can you just install the software on the xbox and retain functionality without getting the remote and dongle?
Thanks for your post, I was almost going to build a cheapo myth TV box...
p.s. On streaming TV, VLC works well to stream the captured TV(or webcam) signal to another pc (especially to VLC), but is not practical if you want to change channels, and I have not been able to stream it to my XBOX (yet hehe).