Post by: nazis X. on April 23, 2003, 09:10:00 PM
Of course, now we're gonna hear a bunch of flamers state that it'd be possible with Swap Memory and why you can't do it if Lunar could.
Post by: Heet on April 23, 2003, 09:17:00 PM
Post by: GLiTcH on April 23, 2003, 09:30:00 PM
so no big deal for me about an n64 emulator... n since it hard to do this project... i gues a psx emu is out too...
Post by: nazis X. on April 23, 2003, 09:34:00 PM
I'm thinking it may, considering it's not cartridge based like the N64, and therefore need not load the entire image into the RAM. I'm not programmer or expert on emulation, so there's a good chance I'm wrong.
Post by: Koitsu on April 23, 2003, 09:35:00 PM
Post by: Zero on April 23, 2003, 09:39:00 PM
Post by: nazis X. on April 23, 2003, 09:44:00 PM
| QUOTE (lantus @ Apr 24 2003, 05:38 AM) | ||
psx is certainly possible - its a different kettle of fish altogether. and im not saying an n64 emulator will never appear on the xbox - with full sound - im just saying PJ64 isnt it |
Thank you for the clairification. Now, so we don't get a bunch of people with crazed looks in their eyes and chanting 'VIRTUAL MEMORY", could you also clairify just how hard it is to implement virtual/swap memory?
Thanks for taking the time to answer my question, Lantus.
On another note, a mod should pin this, so we don't get a bunch of threads pondering the what-ifs of porting PJ64.
Post by: pakman21 on April 23, 2003, 10:47:00 PM
thanks anyways
Post by: fakesky on April 23, 2003, 11:11:00 PM
Post by: lucas on April 23, 2003, 11:23:00 PM
| QUOTE (fakesky @ Apr 24 2003, 05:11 PM) |
| lantus: is the issue with PJ64 or will the problem remain with other n64 emulators, such as daed? |
nice to see you bothered to read the whole thread
Post by: Malf on April 23, 2003, 11:50:00 PM
Post by: nazis X. on April 23, 2003, 11:54:00 PM
| QUOTE (Malf @ Apr 24 2003, 07:50 AM) |
| I heard someone on this board say something about the guys who made MAME X, about how they were tryingto find a way to put "virtual memory" on the hard drive. Anyone else hear about this? |
See, Lantus, this is why you need to lay down the answer about Virtual/swap memory QUICK.
Anyway, back to the question... everyone on the scene has BEEN trying to implement Virtual memory... that's been, oh, about a year now. No progress. Why? It'd require a hardcore kernel hack (i.e. new BIOS) and custom code in each emulator/app that supports it. Apparently, it's pretty fucking hard to do, because the same guys that gave us all of the BIOSes and emulators/apps that you can download haven't been able to figure it out yet.
Post by: Dante_Ali on April 24, 2003, 02:15:00 AM
Post by: guile on April 24, 2003, 05:03:00 AM
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Post by: TerrorShocked on April 24, 2003, 05:53:00 AM
| QUOTE (lantus @ Apr 24 2003, 05:04 AM) |
| simply put - its not worth the trouble let me explain: over the last 2 nights ive been hacking away at the PJ64 source and plugin source and have managed to get mario 64 loading on my xbox. now for the (very) bad news: In order for PJ64 to run properly, it requires at least 128 megs of memory - check the docs that come with PJ64 if you dont believe me. as well as this - the dynamic recompiler cache allocs around *50 megs* for itself. I played around with making the caches smaller and sure it works - but it runs like shit. notice i havenet even mentioned the sound yet? that needs to allocate memory also, as does the main N64 memory maps as well, and finally the ROM image itself. Starting to get the picture? status: im pulling the plug on this - PJ64 was never meant to work with 64megs of memory. hopefully this will put to rest some of these people who are pleading for a Pj64 port. |
Daedalus seems to be your best bet.... someone would just have to release or write an open source sound plugin for it. It is either that or write one from scratch which is way too time consuming.
Post by: guile on May 12, 2003, 03:58:00 PM
| QUOTE (lantus @ Apr 24 2003, 06:04 AM) |
| simply put - its not worth the trouble let me explain: over the last 2 nights ive been hacking away at the PJ64 source and plugin source and have managed to get mario 64 loading on my xbox. now for the (very) bad news: In order for PJ64 to run properly, it requires at least 128 megs of memory - check the docs that come with PJ64 if you dont believe me. as well as this - the dynamic recompiler cache allocs around *50 megs* for itself. I played around with making the caches smaller and sure it works - but it runs like shit. notice i havenet even mentioned the sound yet? that needs to allocate memory also, as does the main N64 memory maps as well, and finally the ROM image itself. Starting to get the picture? status: im pulling the plug on this - PJ64 was never meant to work with 64megs of memory. hopefully this will put to rest some of these people who are pleading for a Pj64 port. |
Thought I would bring this one back for "obvious" reasons. Seem's interesting that Lantus had such trouble and all of a
sudden an applicant in the N64 contest has waved a magic wand with it.
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Post by: HumanClay on May 12, 2003, 05:15:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| Ok, since the other thread turned into a my dick is bigger than yours, i decided to make a offical thread with *only* contest news and info. I have been beta testing a PJ64 port, and the author has given me permission to give you guys some details. As of this very moment, it can win goals 1 & 2 |
| QUOTE |
| Here is a list of compatible roms with the current version. Compatible meaning fully playable with no or very minor issues, with sound/graphics/controls/saves/save state/zip support. 1080 Snowboarding A Bugs Life Aerofighter's Assault AeroGauge AirBoarder All Star Tennis '99 Automobili Lamborghini Bust-A-Move '99 California Speed Centre Court Tennis Earthworm Jim 3d Extreme-G F-1 Pole Position 64 Gex 64 - Enter the Gecko Iggy's Reckin' Balls John Romero's Daikatana Looney Tunes - Duck Dodgers Mario Kart 64 Mario 64 Monopoly Paperboy Southpark StarFox WaveRace Wheel of Fortune Rampage - World Tour |
http://forums.xbox-s...ST&f=17&t=54364
Yep, looks like PJ64 on Xbox is gonna be sweet
Post by: Sir_Vival on May 12, 2003, 06:02:00 PM
Post by: SSSSSmokey on May 12, 2003, 07:01:00 PM