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Author Topic: I'm Gonna Try To Bust The Container Encryption  (Read 817 times)

PlasmaGhost

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I'm Gonna Try To Bust The Container Encryption
« on: November 26, 2006, 08:26:28 AM »


Ok everyone, I'm gonna make an attempt to crack the encryption used on the container files.

But first, I'm gonna need as much information as possible about this encryption. I then will create a program that can brute force the encryption and I'm gonna run it on about 4 different computers (each starting and stopping at different points) until I crack the code.

I also need to know how I could tell if I cracked it. I could then implement all this into my brute force program.


And if it all works, I will release the key and all the required information to crack it by hand and also a program that can decrypt and encrypt the files.




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peetyboy2006

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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2006, 04:51:30 PM »


LMAO i love it!!!

you are going to brute force the 2048bit encryption key??? The one that would take thousands of years to crack using the most advanced supercomputers on the planet???

Do you even know anything about the key used on these files???

AND you dont know how to tell if youve cracked it, so you cant be the most accomplished hacker around lol.

Please do not post silly stuff like this as many people have already dismissed the idea.

The only way i could see anything like this happening, is if everyone on the planet who has a computer, tried to crack there own bit of the code! and even then it would still take ages!

This is not the way to go, try looking into another method (probably be more benficial going the hardware route).

P.S if this sounded like i was flaming you, then im sorry, but a little reading and searching would put you straight on this matter and would of saved you the time of making this thread.




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travis134sg

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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2006, 05:04:34 PM »


Props for trying to help, and being willing to help, but it wouldn't work.


Feel free to try though, if you do crack it, you'll be famous.




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ecko240sxi

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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2006, 06:34:20 PM »


well lets just say im one of those guys who would leave my comp on for a week while trying it. get the program going and give me the file and tell me how to do it and i'll leave my comp on for a week...maybe longer.




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PlasmaGhost

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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2006, 06:43:43 PM »


LMAO i love it!!!

you are going to brute force the 2048bit encryption key??? The one that would take thousands of years to crack using the most advanced supercomputers on the planet???

Do you even know anything about the key used on these files???

AND you dont know how to tell if youve cracked it, so you cant be the most accomplished hacker around lol.

Please do not post silly stuff like this as many people have already dismissed the idea.

The only way i could see anything like this happening, is if everyone on the planet who has a computer, tried to crack there own bit of the code! and even then it would still take ages!

This is not the way to go, try looking into another method (probably be more benficial going the hardware route).

P.S if this sounded like i was flaming you, then im sorry, but a little reading and searching would put you straight on this matter and would of saved you the time of making this thread.



yea...i didnt know it was a 2048bit key...

ok by hardware route, please explain




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jameswalter

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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2006, 06:44:02 PM »


You don't understand.  Cracking the 2048 bit key using current techniques and current technology would take more than 100 billion years....and at the current power consumption of a personal computer....it would require the power off 100 suns to crack the code.  It's not simply that we don't have enough people....its that it's 2048 bit for a reason....because it will never be cracked.  We will probably never see a 4196 bit key in our lifetimes, because 2048 bit will be plenty for even military encryption.




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vax11780

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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2006, 07:11:00 PM »


Anybody know if the classic key is also used to sign 360 executables?





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peke

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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2006, 09:53:14 AM »


why don't make a program that interacts with almost the entire xbox hacking community that every computer get's somthing like code 1 - ... to check

won't it be possible to encrytpt the code then

ps: srry for my bad english having probs with spelling and if this idea is lame but it's just somthing that poped into my mind




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jameswalter

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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2006, 01:13:35 PM »


why don't make a program that interacts with almost the entire xbox hacking community that every computer get's somthing like code 1 - ... to check

won't it be possible to encrytpt the code then

ps: srry for my bad english having probs with spelling and if this idea is lame but it's just somthing that poped into my mind


It's possible....but once again read my previous post....if the hacking community consisted of 100 Trillion people.....it would take 100 Trillion years at the rate of current processing speed.




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peke

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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2006, 01:39:11 PM »


It's possible....but once again read my previous post....if the hacking community consisted of 100 Trillion people.....it would take 100 Trillion years at the rate of current processing speed.



I have read those above but if you have like 5000 or more people that run 2 computers dedicated on the program won't that make it less then 100 trillion year???? or am i just wrong with thinking that????

ok� maybe youre just wright but I just thought is would be possible to get like thousands of people runing the program and all with a limmited of codes every day to run, won't that make some sorth of shorter time length to encrypt the code then with like 2 computers or something like that. It maybe is just a silly idea but I think if everyone on the forum ( that are 314970 people ) or just the half of all people won't that actualy be much faster then thousands of supercomputers ( ok� not when you would be running a computer on windows 3.0 or somthing like that but you know what I mean don't you???)





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jameswalter

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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2006, 03:34:41 PM »


It took over 5 months to crack the 640-bit key for the RSA challenge with 30 computers working on it.  The 2048 bit key is 2^(2048-640)=7000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 times harder to crack that the 640 bit key.  Try telling me you still think that it's possible.




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travis134sg

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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2006, 08:54:55 PM »


Lol, watch the encryption key turn out to be all 0's...




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commandersafi

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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2006, 09:03:59 PM »


Lol, watch the encryption key turn out to be all 0's...


omg that would be so funny.




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No_Name

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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2006, 11:21:42 PM »


HOW the **** can you have a 2048 bit key with the value of 0

Just adding alot of 0's does not change the value of zero from zero.

Its basic math did they not teach you that at school?




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sp1200

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« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2006, 01:28:26 AM »


Come on you guys. He said he was willing to leave his computer on for a whole week to try and bruteforce it. I think he is on to something. With a little luck and a fast CPU capable of hyperthreading and dual core I think this guy can do it! Post your PC specs!




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