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Author Topic: Pi Released The Demo Disc From The Kiosks And.. Behold  (Read 800 times)

OcnewB

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Pi Released The Demo Disc From The Kiosks And.. Behold
« on: December 27, 2005, 06:51:57 AM »


As title describes here the information:





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leXor

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« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2005, 07:05:28 AM »


� just found the release on nForce too! This is great news! I've been wating for a COD2 demo, so I'll be downloading this as soon as I find it. The best thing about it is ofcourse the unsigned - yet runnable code. I hope MS won't update the dash and fix this "problem" smile.gif

I was however, under the impression that the demo-kiosks ran unsigned code - like the dev-kits. Is it not strange that the retail version even run this disc - if the code is indeed unsigned?

Let the hacking begin!





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aceman118

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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2005, 07:18:21 AM »


I have a feeling this is not unsigned. It probably has some sort of signing in it. My best guess is that MS made this downloadable or something so that if a retailer needs a new on all they have to do is download it and burn it. Just a guess though.




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OcnewB

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« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2005, 07:25:24 AM »


I have a feeling this is not unsigned. It probably has some sort of signing in it. My best guess is that MS made this downloadable or something so that if a retailer needs a new on all they have to do is download it and burn it. Just a guess though.


Well it HAS to be signed because the xex files wont load if they arent signed. however there is just (and this is what i think) no mediaflag attached to the files. I wanna bet it would also run from the hdd




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modthebox.tk

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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2005, 07:28:04 AM »


if MS has not signed it we can burn and send in a diagnostic program sometime in the future and see what the 360 is made of.

it could also be a software signature that we could maybe even extract and put to burned disks of linux

muhaha.gif  muhaha.gif  muhaha.gif .


this might be a good start or just a big blowover




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krayzie

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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2005, 07:32:51 AM »


if MS has not signed it we can burn and send in a diagnostic program sometime in the future and see what the 360 is made of.

it could also be a software signature that we could maybe even extract and put to burned disks of linux

muhaha.gif  muhaha.gif  muhaha.gif .
this might be a good start or just a big blowover


wut? like mentioned it has to be signed otherwise the xex wouldn't even load. It's just that it has multiple media flags making it possible to run it on burnable discs too. There might be a reason for ms to do this or they might have messed up or something but still it doesn't mean we can get any keys out of there. In fact it would be no different then trying to get a key out of a normal xex.
You can also not run any unsigned apps/games out of this disc.




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leXor

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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2005, 07:35:38 AM »


Quote from the nfo:
"It seems MS was in such a hurry to get this stuff out that they forgot to set the media protection on this disc. This leaves hackers with the posibility to hack around with this disc that load from a normal DVDR5 backup! - Team Pi also notes that the all datafiles on this disc isn't signed in any way, and will allow for extensive modification for producing exploits to further our efford to hack this box!"

Are they not refering to xex files when they say: "all datafiles on this disc isn't signed in any way"?
If they don't mean xex files, how is this different from the retail games (exept for the mediaflag)?
Signing is only done on executibles anyways, is it not?

I still have high hopes on this as THE breakthrough wink.gif




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krayzie

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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2005, 07:42:21 AM »


Quote from the nfo:
"It seems MS was in such a hurry to get this stuff out that they forgot to set the media protection on this disc. This leaves hackers with the posibility to hack around with this disc that load from a normal DVDR5 backup! - Team Pi also notes that the all datafiles on this disc isn't signed in any way, and will allow for extensive modification for producing exploits to further our efford to hack this box!"

Are they not refering to xex files when they say: "all datafiles on this disc isn't signed in any way"?
If they don't mean xex files, how is this different from the retail games (exept for the mediaflag)?
Signing is only done on executibles anyways, is it not?

I still have high hopes on this as THE breakthrough wink.gif


well try to edit the default.xex and then burn it and see if it works... I doubt it.
I think they just mean that everything besides the xex's are not protected and can be edited.





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OcnewB

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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2005, 07:43:56 AM »


Quote from the nfo:
"It seems MS was in such a hurry to get this stuff out that they forgot to set the media protection on this disc. This leaves hackers with the posibility to hack around with this disc that load from a normal DVDR5 backup! - Team Pi also notes that the all datafiles on this disc isn't signed in any way, and will allow for extensive modification for producing exploits to further our efford to hack this box!"

Are they not refering to xex files when they say: "all datafiles on this disc isn't signed in any way"?
If they don't mean xex files, how is this different from the retail games (exept for the mediaflag)?
Signing is only done on executibles anyways, is it not?

I still have high hopes on this as THE breakthrough wink.gif


I guess what they mean is that the files have no mediacheck/signthing. The .nfo confuses me also a little bit.

Look at it this way, the downloadable backw.c. .xex file from ms IS signed but has no mediacheck so you can burn and update.
I guess its the same with this.




Edited by OcnewB, 27 December 2005 - 04:47 PM.


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filthy_sanchez

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« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2005, 07:45:26 AM »


I'm not sure if the rules allow for .nfo posting, if not, i apologize and will remove it... however, i thought it was significant.. and wanted to see what you people say about it....
Can anybody confirm this works?  If so, i don't think it'll be too long until we're booting everything from dvd...




EXPERIENCE XBOX 360 *SELFBOOTING* DISC!
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     �۲��      RELEASE INFORMATION   _ __/     /  / /\_____ __ _ ���۳
     ������������������������������������������������������������������
            Platform: Xbox 360      Category: Big m$ fuckup! smile.gif
            Released: 12/27/2005    Origin: Europe/ Pal
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     �۲��      RELEASE NOTES         _ __/     /  / /\____ __ _  ���۳
     ������������������������������������������������������������������
       *** YES YOU CAN BURN THIS ISO AND PLAY IT IN YOUR XBOX-360 ***
       MS left us with this blanket statement:
       "Xbox 360 retail kiosks have started arriving at retailers.
       Due to the nature of the distribution process, not all kiosks
       are hitting simultaneously, but are continuing to pop up in
       retailers across the country in the coming weeks.
       The kiosks are designed for a retail environment and feature
       game samples, game trailers and product information."
       Team Pi leaves you with this Pillow statement:
       "It seems MS was in such a hurry to get this stuff out
       that they forgot to set the media protection on this disc.
       This leaves hackers with the posibility to hack around with
       this disc that load from a normal DVDR5 backup! - Team Pi
       also notes that the all datafiles on this disc isn't signed in
       any way, and will allow for extensive modification for producing
       exploits to further our efford to hack this box!"
       Playable (hackable) games on this disc:
         Call of Duty 2, Hexic, Kameo, King Kong.
       Also includes lots of game and accessory demos in video format.
       Nothing ripped, just foreign videos were downsampled to fit
       onto a normal DVDR5!
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     �۲��      SPECIAL NOTE         _ __/     /  / /\____ __ _  ���۳
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       YES you can run this! Burn the iso, put it into your xbox and
       be very amazed... Next, think of the posibilities of hacking
       this little demo disc that we might start running code on
       the retail xbox 360's ! smile.gif
       So the second task is done. We hope this encourages all hackers,
       coders and crackers out there to take up the challenge.
       Enjoy!
       
       Special note to the Clear kids: Yes, we are old and lazy, and no,
       we are not going to do some scene war against you. Life is too
       short for that, and our dicks are allready large enough smile.gif
       
       Keep up the hard work!
                 Pi Putting the 360' Spin on the Xbox :-)






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�iquid-!ce

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« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2005, 07:47:28 AM »


theres already about 4 threads on this disk




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filthy_sanchez

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« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2005, 07:49:04 AM »


damn... sorry for that... my mistake.

please close the thread.




Edited by filthy_sanchez, 27 December 2005 - 04:49 PM.


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leXor

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« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2005, 07:52:29 AM »


well try to edit the default.xex and then burn it and see if it works... I doubt it.
I think they just mean that everything besides the xex's are not protected and can be edited.


If your statement is correct, would this be possible:
1. Find a default.xex on the demo-kiosk disc that uses some unsigned dll-like file.
2. Hack the unsigned dll and make it execute a default.xex file from any retail game without changing the app-id - making the 360 think that it's still running the first app, when it's infact launching a retail backup game.

I don't know if something like this is even possible or if it's just another stupid suggestion.
Atleast I try tongue.gif







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OcnewB

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« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2005, 07:52:52 AM »


well try to edit the default.xex and then burn it and see if it works... I doubt it.
I think they just mean that everything besides the xex's are not protected and can be edited.


Me to.




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jizmo

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« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2005, 08:03:50 AM »


Strip all the undesirable stuff from there, replace a certain WMV-HD video with a WMV-HD video of your choise, burn it to DVD+RW and voil�, you've just turned your x360 to a standalone HDTV player that doesn't require that bloody MCE.




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